[Antioch]

When was the last successful regime change of a real nation that ended beneficially for the US? Japan? And that required a nuclear incineration of two cities. Since then? What, Grenada?

Well next on the agenda will be Cuba. Let’s see if that’s a 48 hr cakewalk. My guess is a multi year quagmire like every other bright idea post ww2.

Military campaigns very rarely result in peace and prosperity for the attacker. That’s history. If an attack is short, that’s even a greater danger because it spurs on bigger ambitions, which inevitably result in quagmires. (Afghanistan to Iraq, Venezuela to Iran). The relative ease of swooping in and kidnapping Maduro probably set the cabinet level groupthink off the charts to try for an encore for nation of 92 million. And here we are with no way out and about to lose everything in the midterms. At the back of it all is overweening pride and the national anomaly of one man being given the authority to declare war without any approval from the people, on any nation he chooses. Just crazy.

St. Augustine, in The City of God, asks what gave rise to the first evil act and answers: pride. He cites Sirach’s phrase, “pride is the beginning of sin. Pride is a thousand times the “national security threat” as Iran is.

[Theophilus]

Pride is a thousand times the “national security threat” as Iran is.

Amen to that!!!

God is the changer of regimes:

"He changes times and seasons;
he removes kings and sets up kings;
he gives wisdom to the wise
and knowledge to those who have understanding"

I don't want to try to change Irans regime, I want to punish and enervate their economy and power to attack us and their own citizens. If they persist, I'm in favor of permanently partitioning the nation.

[Theophilus]

Pride is a thousand times the “national security threat” as Iran is.

Amen to that!!!

God is the changer of regimes:

"He changes times and seasons;
he removes kings and sets up kings;
he gives wisdom to the wise
and knowledge to those who have understanding"

I don't want to try to change Irans regime, I want to punish and enervate their economy and power to attack us and their own citizens. If they persist, I'm in favor of permanently partitioning the nation.

[Jim Noble]

When was the last successful regime change of a real nation that ended beneficially for the US? Japan? And that required a nuclear incineration of two cities

It required a lot more than that.