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We need to ask ourselves how we got here:

1) Moving away from the family to the individual as the organizing principle of society.

2) Feminism: the denial of the unique and proper role of women as wives and mothers. Women have been stripped of their natural identity. Without that men see no reason to support them.

3) The separation of sex from marriage and procreation. Sex has become inconsequential. When children were assumed to be the natural outcome both men and women ordered their desires to care for them, hence marriage. This also leads to the rise of homosexuality and “transgenderism.”

4) No fault divorce which basically outlawed marriage. A man and a woman are no longer able to make a lifetime binding contract to each other. Without that commitment modern marriage is just playing house.

5) The two items even most conservatives do not want to address: Pornography and birth control. The order sexual desires towards lust rather than the commitment of love in marriage.

6) The abandonment of Christianity as the guiding principle of society. Christianity guides the individual to abandon his selfish desires and direct himself to love and self-sacrifice. Secularism naturally leads to selfish individualism.

7) Courts and an education system that has been lost to the liberals which teach and enforce all of the above.

For too long conservatives have complained about all of this but have not pushed back. For example, we complain about homosexuals but we are too cowed to publicly say that homosexuality is a perversion that should not be accepted in society. We complain about “transgenderism” and mock it with the question of “what is a woman” but how many conservative leaders will outright say that there is not such thing as transgenderism, that these are mentally disturbed people who are nothing more that transvestites? And how many people will vocally declare that indeed the proper role of women is in the home as wives and mothers rather than in the workplace? When the left pushes and we do not push back we should not be surprised that the society goes with them.


56 posted on 09/17/2026 4:41:44 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
...The two items even most conservatives do not want to address: Pornography and birth control. The order sexual desires towards lust rather than the commitment of love in marriage.

Pornography and birth control are symptoms, not causes.

Birth control has been around for thousands of years. And even pornographers get married.

68 posted on 09/17/2026 5:38:05 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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You forgot about #1: The welfare state.

Which govt used to elevate & promote ‘single mothers’ to be worshiped & lauded.

W/o the welfare state, ‘no fault’ could not exist (in size/scope as today)

Regardless of the # of ‘reasons’, the blame can be placed at the feet of one entity 1st & foremost: govt.

Given (illegal) lurch of our govt to Social/Commun-ism, the annihilation of Men/nuclear family+ is an expected outcome *shrug*.


88 posted on 09/17/2026 7:53:03 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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