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To: SmokingJoe; MtnClimber; SunkenCiv

If on LA’s delta, will the location permit launches due or east-northeast? South-eastern trajectories if there is a launch/booster problem would be open until the missile is over FL west coast. Now, from south TX, there is only a very narrow “window” between FL tip, Cuba, and several of the independent islands.


21 posted on 08/25/2026 12:15:16 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Do the racist Islamics use their Communists as dupes? Or do the racist Communists use the Islamics?)
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To: Robert A Cook PE
Grok:

No — due east or east-northeast launches are not expected to be practical or permitted as primary trajectories from the planned SpaceX Starbase Louisiana site.

nola.com

The upcoming facility (announced August 25, 2026) is a large Starship-focused spaceport in coastal Vermilion Parish near Pecan Island / Freshwater Bayou Canal (southwest of Lafayette, on the Gulf of Mexico marshland). It is intended as a high-cadence site with multiple pads, supporting thousands of launches per year, with construction targeted for 2027 and first launches as early as 2029.

arstechnica.com

Launch direction constraintsPreferred / practical azimuths are southerly, roughly in the 115°–190° range (southeast to south-southwest). These keep the vehicle over open Gulf of Mexico water for a long stretch during ascent, with only a distant potential overflight of sparsely populated areas of Mexico (e.g., near the Yucatán or further) far downrange. This geometry supports polar, near-polar, and sun-synchronous orbits—useful for certain Starlink/AI satellite constellations—and mirrors the open-water approach used from Starbase Texas.

kpel965.com

Due east (~90°) or east-northeast would generally head over or near populated parts of Louisiana (including toward the New Orleans area) and other land. Experts note this would be unpopular and problematic for range safety/overflight reasons, so it is not viewed as a viable primary corridor.

nola.com

Official comments highlight the site's access to a “wide range of trajectories” and its southward-facing Gulf Coast location as advantages (especially versus purely equatorial paths from Texas or Florida). However, detailed geographic analysis consistently emphasizes the open-water southern corridor as the key safe path, with eastward options constrained by land and population. Final FAA licensing, range safety, and environmental approvals will define exact allowable azimuths, but the site's geography strongly favors south-oriented launches over due-east or east-northeast ones.

arstechnica.com

In short, the Louisiana Gulf Coast location is well-suited for high-inclination (polar-type) missions via southern trajectories but is not set up like Florida's Eastern Range for routine due-east launches.

25 posted on 08/25/2026 12:36:31 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Robert A Cook PE

“on LA’s delta, will the location permit launches due or east-northeast? South-eastern trajectories if there is a launch/booster problem would be open until the missile is over FL west coast. Now, from south TX, there is only a very narrow “window” between FL tip, Cuba, and several of the independent islands.”

No you cannot launch due east your booster IIP that’s immediate impact point crosses over New Orleans metro area and all of the Redneck Riviera too.

This site is for polar orbits , sun synchronise SSO or ISS 55 degree inclinations all of those are near due south or inclined over the Gulf.

SSO is important for surveillance orbits and geointel plus climate monitoring as the bird crossas the same spots again and again at the exact same solar hour angle.

Polar orbits are where you put AI data centers they have very short solar eclipse periods so you don’t need huge battery banks to ride out hours of darkness polar orbits have near continuous sunlight except for the orbits behind earth’s shadow and you cross in and out every 45 min in those like clock work. All the others are edge on full orbit in sunlight.

About IIP this is the point on earth where if you lost power or your rocket blew up the debris with land after it’s ballistic path and reentry it’s actually an eclipse area. At first it is close to your launch pad and as your stack gains altitude and more importantly it a horizontal vector speed this point starts to move rapidly along the surface. This IIP must not cross populated land BEFORE you cross the Karman line which makes you legally in space. From that point forward you can cross any city on earth and we do regularly. Superheavy never gets close to orbital velocity so its always below the legal Karman space line and it’s IIP must NEVER intersect populated land. Starship on the other hand once it crosses 100km it’s IIP is no longer relevant and even if it crosses over land it does so at 7+km per second so the statistical probability of it coming down over any given spot is near zero so yes you can launch due east out of south Texas and Starship can and will cross Florida legally and safely it’s the only way to get to the moon from any current or future Starship pad unless they also do a KSC tower then you can also go due east from there as well. You could never use this Pecan Island site for a due east launch over NOLA it will not be allowed for obvious reasons regardless of how many successful launches they have it only takes one to dump 4000 tonnes of burning debris over the most populated part of LA nope not happening in fact the protests would be biblical.

The best place for a spot which can do both polar , SSO, and due east is Matagorda Island Texas it’s been studied and there was a NASA facility there at one point for the Space Shuttle KSC won the political aspect and there you go. From a orbital mechanics and booster recovery Matagorda Island is ideal if you want to catch boosters down range in the Gulf they come back well before Florida waters are reached.


50 posted on 08/26/2026 3:38:07 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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