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To: DugwayDuke

It is absolutely relevant to Michael Fanone. These were two people on different sides of the political divide (I’m not going to say left vs right, because that’s entirely simplistic and inaccurate). One of these people, who had joined the US military as a patriot, was involved in a march that became more than that - in the context of now established involvement of undercover operatives (you can try to dispute that but you will be defenseless; Patel has clarified the involvement of at least 100 undercover operatives of one sort or another; As FBI director he would know).

Ashli Babit was a 5’2” 110 pound unarmed wife and mother who posed zero threat to the armed officer who shot her, point blank. Zero threat. Any feeble attempt to characterize that in a different light will be entertaining. Would you have shot her? Would you have been that much of a wuss? Further, this all happened AFTER the Capitol police allowed (actually somewhat guided) protesters into the Capitol). Plus, it was entry into a lobby (your words). That deserves being killed for?

The protesters were being fired upon with tear gas and crowd control projectiles (among other things) and Fanone was 100% conscious when he came out from the crowd with no visible injuries according to witnesses (i.e. he wasn’t beaten unconscious as he claimed). He did, however, make a lot of money from the incident.

For comparison, a federal judge in Oregon issued a preliminary injunction restricting federal officers from using tear gas and kinetic projectiles at Portland ICE protests unless there is an imminent threat of physical harm. So, if you are from the Trump crowd you are fair game; if you are an anti-Trump pro-illegal immigration protester you are protected.

I could (and will if necessary) go on and on. That said, what exactly are you trying to say on this site that has many patriots who have risked their lives for this nation on it? Who are you defending? Do you think January 6th was truly an insurrection? Really? If so, what was propping up a sadly infirm President (Biden) and using his infirmity to push a leftist agenda?

I don’t know you, or your history here, but I think I speak for many here when I say that there has been a significant shift in posts on FR that seem anti-conservative and anti-Trump. If you don’t like conservatism or are a conservative and don’t like Trump - just explain why. No need to fire bullets from behind a wall.


24 posted on 07/08/2026 2:39:06 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: neverevergiveup

neverevergiveup wrote: “Ashli Babit was a 5’2” 110 pound unarmed wife and mother who posed zero threat to the armed officer who shot her, point blank. Zero threat. Any feeble attempt to characterize that in a different light will be entertaining.”

No, Babbit was not some innocent wife and mother who just happened to get shot while visiting DC and innocently touring the Capital. And she wasn’t unarmed. A knife was found on her at the hospital.

She was repeatedly warned not proceed, but she attempted to climb through a shattered window beside a barricaded door into the House Speaker’s Lobby. She was shot while breaking and entering and trespassing. What was this innocent wife and mother planning on doing once she breached the Speaker’s Lobby? Why was she even in the Capital building?

It is irrelevant if Babbit posed a threat to the shooter who was there, not to defend himself, but to defend the Capital. Her actions constituted a threat to everyone behind that barricade.

What should the officer have done? Do you think he should have helped her climb through the window? Or perhaps moved the barricade and escorted her on a tour of the Speaker’s Office?

The USCP deemed that the shooting was “lawful and within Department policy” and “potentially saved Members [of Congress] and staff from serious injury and possible death”.

What would you do if some one, who was part of a mob, was entering your house through a broken window?

BTW, I’ve been around here since 1999. When did you join?


27 posted on 07/08/2026 4:32:09 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pickhe expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: neverevergiveup

neverevergiveup wrote: “Ashli Babit was a 5’2” 110 pound unarmed wife and mother who posed zero threat to the armed officer who shot her, point blank. Zero threat. Any feeble attempt to characterize that in a different light will be entertaining.”

No, Babbit was not some innocent wife and mother who just happened to get shot while visiting DC and innocently touring the Capital. And she wasn’t unarmed. A knife was found on her at the hospital.

She was repeatedly warned not proceed, but she attempted to climb through a shattered window beside a barricaded door into the House Speaker’s Lobby. She was shot while breaking and entering and trespassing. What was this innocent wife and mother planning on doing once she breached the Speaker’s Lobby? Why was she even in the Capital building?

It is irrelevant if Babbit posed a threat to the shooter who was there, not to defend himself, but to defend the Capital. Her actions constituted a threat to everyone behind that barricade.

What should the officer have done? Do you think he should have helped her climb through the window? Or perhaps moved the barricade and escorted her on a tour of the Speaker’s Office?

The USCP deemed that the shooting was “lawful and within Department policy” and “potentially saved Members [of Congress] and staff from serious injury and possible death”.

What would you do if some one, who was part of a mob, was entering your house through a broken window?

BTW, I’ve been around here since 1999. When did you join?


28 posted on 07/08/2026 4:32:10 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pickhe expert who says the things they agree with.)
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