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Posted on 07/08/2026 5:04:30 AM PDT by V_TWIN
War is back on in Iran on Wednesday after Tehran launched attacks on trade vessels in the Strait of Hormuz. President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he considers the tentative ceasefire with Iran to be "over," telling reporters alongside NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte at the alliance's annual summit in Ankara, Turkey, that the agreement had become "a waste of time." "For me, I think it's over," Trump said.
"As far as I'm concerned it's just a waste of time." "They're liars," Trump said. "We make a deal. ... They go outside, talk to the press. They say, 'We never even talked about it.' ... As far as I'm concerned, it's over." He said U.S. negotiators could continue talks with Iran but predicted they would go nowhere. "They can talk, but I think they're wasting their time. They're liars, they're cheats. They're sick people." The comments came hours after the U.S. launched strikes on Iranian military targets and revoked a license authorizing the sale of Iranian oil, saying the moves were retaliation for Tehran's attacks on commercial shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. Trump said the U.S. struck after Iran resumed attacks on ships despite being given time to conduct funeral ceremonies for Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The interim agreement between Washington and Tehran had been intended to reduce tensions and allow commercial traffic to resume through the Strait of Hormuz, a critical global shipping lane that carries roughly one-fifth of the world's traded oil. But Iran struck at least three commercial vessels transiting the waterway on Monday and Tuesday, prompting the U.S. military response. U.S. Central Command said American forces struck more than 80 Iranian targets, including air defense systems, radar sites and Revolutionary Guard vessels used to threaten shipping. Iran responded with strikes targeting U.S. military installations.
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He just figured this out?
Or he knew he had to go through the motions, first.
That’s right.
All bullies are like that.
The 4th of July is over. Now the other fireworks will begin.
Honeychile......your America-hating venom beats me by a mile.
Turn off all of the electricity and water.
EXACTLY!
Liars? No s-it.
About time Trump may have had enough.
So what’s the plan now?
Why are there ant serious targets even left?
You are one delusional broad. What keeps you coming here? Masochistic tendencies, maybe?
CC
Having worked in the NMCC during the first Gulf War and other battle staffs and intelligence operations, I can say that some targets are more valuable alive than dead, for example: SIGINT nodes, C2 relays, uplink/downlink sites, coastal radar networks, command hubs, and cyber/EW platforms.
If you kill them immediately, you lose traffic, patterns, network mapping, leadership signatures and operational behavior under stress. CENTCOM often leaves certain nodes intact until they’ve squeezed all the intelligence value out of them. This is especially true for mobile SIGINT platforms, coastal radar sites, and small boat command networks.
But you’re right to question them leaving them alone for so long. THAT decision was political. I hope that’s all over!
Another issue is Battle Damage Assessment (BDA) uncertainty. Some targets were believed to be destroyed, degraded, abandoned or relocated, but Iran has a habit of rapidly reconstituting, moving equipment at night, hiding assets in civilian ports, dispersing missile launchers into fishing harbors and using decoys.
Again, I hope that is now over and we’re going to finish the job.
If you remember, we got the point where we were going after the bridges and power plants, and the Iranians started to force citizens—old, people, women, kids—to stand on those bridges and in the power plants. That’s when the media starting licking their chops about being able to show Trump as a war criminal. So we stopped. I disagree with that decision but it was based on real, USA politics and the news media.
How can we fight a war when all the democrats have such bad TDS they will let such a brutal regime continue to exist because it’s Trump trying to destroy them, and then at least half of the Republicans and MAGA people are complaining that he promised no new wars?
It’s politically untenable.
It is sad; but to rid the world of these death cult ideologues there will be civilan casualties. Nuclear certainly isn’t an option, but a mass of MOABS over every government installation would do wonders for that country’s disposition.
Haha you made me laugh. I can just hear that fake Frenchy voice narrating the decimation of that Islamist death cult.
Brother, we have seen this movie MANY times before ... and it *ALWAYS* ends the exact same way. There is nonegotiating with Islamists, NONE. They practice taqqiya, therefore the ONLY reasonable posture is annihilation.
I agree. Also this was an opportunity to get as many of the stranded ships through the strait as possible snf for the alternate routes to solidify.
People forget that before any of this kicked off, Iran openly said they wouldn’t give up their nuclear program and were getting close to weapons capability — even while telling us the opposite at the negotiating table. That’s not Israel manipulating anything; that’s Iran lying, stalling, and pushing the region toward a crisis that eventually forced a U.S. response.
The idea that Israel ‘dragged’ us into this ignores the simple fact that Iran kept attacking our bases, our ships, and breaking every ceasefire — all while telling us they weren’t pursuing nuclear weapons even as our intel showed they were lying. We responded because Iran forced the issue, not because Netanyahu was pulling anyone’s strings.
“so Trump just figured out these Iranians are NUTS”
oh, he knew all along, and was just playing the game and giving the Iranians enough rope to prove to the world [and hopefully USA voters] that the Iranians would NEVER EVER keep their word regarding any kind of “agreement” that they might make ...
one idea that was posted here was to completely destroy their refining capacity ... leaves the oil production infrastructure intact for future use, yet would bring the military and government to its knees [just look at what happened to Hitler]
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