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To: Merrick
Because Trump has done the latter.

He's made a start at it, but we're not there yet. Nor have European stocks been rebuilt. Hence, should the fighting start up again, the world economy would quickly become very shaky. That's reality. Best not to paint it as too rosy as the article title did.

Please do not paint my reasons for posting that so hyperbolically. I do think we needed the war, albeit I also think Trump should have got more Congressional buy-in before starting it. I think the debate would have been good for us as a nation. We really should have finished rebuilding the Strategic Petroleum Reserve before starting. I have doubts the situation was as dire as was portrayed and we should have had better evidence for it for public buy-in if it was. After all, we all still have a sour taste considering how Saddam Hussein's WMD were portrayed.

12 posted on 07/04/2026 9:11:07 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

If the fighting starts up again then everything changes including this discussion.

You might as well say if aliens land.

I think the war starting up again is more likely, but if you’re just going to throw hypotheticals out then anyone can do that. I have more important things to do that ponder hypotheticals. There’s another thread posted a little before this one talking about collapse in the regime. Want to talk about hypotheticals?


14 posted on 07/04/2026 9:14:56 AM PDT by Merrick (It's a car - that runs on water, man!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Congressional democrats would have NEVER “ bought in”…because of partisan politics. So what would be the point of debate? These democrats opposing Trump- everything can’t even define the biological reality of 2 human sexes.

You may have superior sources of intel to what Trump and the Senate were provided…..but our own negotiators closest to pre war Iranian authorities were told by Iran that they were weeks from reaching weapons grade enrichment for multiple warheads. If that was a bluff..it was unwise.

Trump and the Senate were convinced by multiple sources to a reasonably actionable certainty…that time was running out for preemption of the threat. And eliminating the Iran nuc weapon threat only after it was publicly emergent and undeniable….was a catastrophic military scenario. As was doing nothing and watching Israel trying to eliminate this existential threat on its own

Waiting longer was a choice this President was unwilling to make.
So boo hoo. Trump is doing what he has been saying needed to be done…for actually 40 years, he talked openly about not tolerating an Iran nuc state long before he ever entered politics. And certainly during his campaigns.


21 posted on 07/04/2026 9:39:07 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowit)
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To: Carry_Okie

“Trump should have got more Congressional buy-in before starting it.”

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29 posted on 07/04/2026 11:29:52 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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