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To: TLI

Uh, except you only get about 30-35% of the energy into the motive force of the car. Compared to >90% of an EV. That’s one reason. Second reason - it’s way cheaper - as in right now when i fill up my Mustang GT, i get about 340 Miles of range for ~45$ When i charge my Tesla Model Y long range, i get about 320 miles of range for < 8$.

You see, I have both and drive each every day. I speak from first hand experience. Dullards on this website call EVs glorified golf carts. Anybody that knows cars know that Tesla has held “fastest production car” title in the world for many years. My Modely Y LR (SINGLE MOTOR) is faster them my manual Mustang GT with the Coyote engine.

I don’t see myself buying another gas car.... Now imagine in 4-5 years that the range is 700-1000 miles. Once you get past about 500-600, you need to take a break from driving.


7 posted on 06/28/2026 9:18:14 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain; TLI
For many of us conservatives, our real objection is not the performance of EV's except for the range and the charging time.

It is the fact that burns us that we were being forced down the road of having to buy them, and our tax dollars were being used to subsidize them.

Worst of all, they are being presented primarily as some kind of solution to the non-existent hoax of anthropogenic climate change which was like the Leftists poking their fingers in our collective eyes.

Like many, I decry the subsidies, and feel that EVs should rise or fall on the basis of their merit and who wishes to buy them in a Free Market. But if I am going to be forced to buy a car by government authorities, that is going to make me (and many others) point out the legitimate drawbacks of being forced by government to buy one instead of being able to make a economic decision that is right for me.

That said, I saw this beautiful aftermarket EV Mustang that, even though it had only a 200 mile range, was drop dead gorgeous to look at and would pin your bellybutton to your spine with the torque it could put out. I would buy one if I had plenty of money to burn, just to drive on Sundays.

In the end, I like Musk. I like Teslas. I hate being forced by government to buy a vehicle I don't want and will resist that by all means available, including pointing out every drawback about the technology that I don't like and disregarding the things I might like such as the torque and acceleration.

8 posted on 06/28/2026 9:41:09 PM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est)
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To: BereanBrain

Seems to me that if one could fully utilize the energy content of gasoline then Tesla would no longer hold the “fastest production car” title. Then again.... Shelby held that title long ago with the AC Cobra.


9 posted on 06/28/2026 10:01:35 PM PDT by LastDayz (A Blunt and Brazen Texan. I Will Not Be Assimilated.)
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To: BereanBrain
Uh, except you only get about 30-35% of the energy into the motive force of the car. Compared to >90% of an EV. That’s one reason. Second reason - it’s way cheaper - as in right now when i fill up my Mustang GT, i get about 340 Miles of range for ~45$ When i charge my Tesla Model Y long range, i get about 320 miles of range for < 8$.

Why not get rid of the GT and just drive the Model Y? Seems to me it would be cheaper than maintaining 2 cars...

13 posted on 06/29/2026 2:52:43 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: BereanBrain

“Uh, except you only get about 30-35% of the energy into the motive force of the car. Compared to >90% of an EV.”

But fossil fuels were burned to get you that 90%. So you have 90% at the wheel. But you have to factor in how that electricity was generated. And unless you have a nuke plant nearby it was generated using fossil fuels.


24 posted on 06/29/2026 9:02:25 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam!)
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