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To: WhiteHatBobby0701

Some random thoughts on why I won’t be buying one ...

a) AFM or DFM ... pass
b) base price over $60,000 ...pass
c) radio and climate controls embedded in the ipad ... pass
d) turbo assist on the engine ... pass
e) fluid changes must be done at dealer ... pass
f) no oil/transmission dip-sticks in the engine bay ... pass

Feel free to add to this list.


36 posted on 06/22/2026 7:57:12 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Election 2020 was stolen by mail-in voting. Mail-in voting and RCV counting should be abolished.)
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To: ByteMercenary

Your list is the reason my “new” car is a 2011 Lexus IS350C.
That means it is a 3.50 liter naturally aspirated V6.
It has most of the nice technology. Like back up camera.
Beeping when you get too close to the curb.
Intermittent wipers that sense when there is water actually hitting the windshield.

Yet, no lane assist. No shutting off the engine at stops. No shutting off cylinders in overdrive to increase mileage.
Basically, no CAFE standards BS.

I also still have my 2012 Tacoma. Which I kept because I do not want a four cylinder turbo pick up truck. My current Tacoma has a 4.0 liter naturally aspirated V6.


42 posted on 06/22/2026 8:14:00 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: ByteMercenary

” turbo assist on the engine”

Eh, I live at 9600 ft above sea level. Anything without a turbo or supercharger (or preferably both) sucks going up the hill. No air.


50 posted on 06/22/2026 8:48:38 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: ByteMercenary


Some random thoughts on why I won’t be buying one ...”

Random and misguided ...

“c) radio and climate controls embedded in the ipad ... pass”

Radio and Climate control with buttons and knobs

“d) turbo assist on the engine ... pass”

Naturally aspirated

“e) fluid changes must be done at dealer ... pass”

Nor required to be done at dealer

“f) no oil/transmission dip-sticks in the engine bay ... pass”

Dipstick in engine bay


58 posted on 06/22/2026 9:37:21 AM PDT by TexasGator (11i11'./1)
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