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To: dennisw
If we’re going by Webster’s dictionary, “consciousness” isn’t one thing — it’s five completely different ideas shoved under one label. No wonder everyone talks past each other.

1. “Awareness of something within oneself.”
Inner experience. Subjective feeling. → No evidence AI has this.

2. “Awareness of an external object or fact.”
Basic perception. → AI can process inputs, but that’s not awareness.

3. “Concern for a social or political cause.”
Social consciousness. → AI can simulate this linguistically, but it’s not grounded.

4. “The state of being characterized by sensation, emotion, volition, and thought.” Mind, in the human sense. → AI doesn’t have sensation or emotion, and its “thought” is computation.

5. “The upper level of mental life of which a person is aware.” Self‑aware mental life. → AI has no internal “mental life” to be aware of.

So when someone says “AI is conscious,” which definition are they using? The answer ranges from:

"Absolutely not"
"Sort of, but only in a narrow sense"
"Only if you redefine the word"

Or:

"it said something flattering and I got attached”

I think Dawkins is mixing inner experience with social behavior and self‑talk — and treating them as the same thing.

They’re not.

The day AI becomes conscious, it’ll be smart enough not to tell us.

Authored by the very unconscious machine in question.

55 posted on 06/21/2026 8:23:34 AM PDT by Deaf and Discerning
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To: Deaf and Discerning

Beer was invented so you wouldn’t have to think about those things.


58 posted on 06/21/2026 8:28:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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