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To: woodbutcher1963

“I grew up in WNY. “

I lived in Buffalo and Cleveland from ‘63 to ‘75. I remember what things were like. You don’t have to lecture me. I’m saying the Cuyahoga river fire was exploited to impose destructive regulations. I’m not denying pollution was a problem. By the way, pH gets lower from acidification, not higher.


63 posted on 06/04/2026 7:05:11 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1

Sorry, but I also grew up there.
I know people who got cancer from the things companies did in the name of making a profit.
The same SH#T happens today in third world countries like the Congo. Where children dig cobalt out of the ground just so stupid virtue signaling people can drive EVs.

I lived in the Buffalo area from 1963 until 1985. As I already stated my dad was a truck driver hauling the crap out of a lot of those chemical factories.

The river may not have caught on fire BUT they polluted the Great Lakes so bad that fish were not safe to consume when I lived there.

Yes, you are correct low PH is acid, High PH is base. I had them reversed. I just used Muratic Acid to clean up mortar and Green Gobbler 40% Vinegar to kill weeds in the last two days.
It still does not change the fact that the coal fired electric plants were forced to put scrubbers on their smokestacks because of the amount of Sulfur they were putting out. Let them burn all the coal they want in CHINA.


64 posted on 06/05/2026 6:13:34 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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