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To: SeekAndFind
Since the 1950s, she suggested, men had begun rebelling against the breadwinner ethic, inspired by Playboy culture, the counterculture and a desire for personal freedom.

Wait.... that can't be right. Women were still being housewives and mothers. They could vote, but that was it. Feminism as we know it was still a good 20 years away.

I have been told over and over on this forum that men didn't start rejecting marriage, women did. Women became feminists, entered the workplace, took over the colleges... and THAT was why men were drawing back.

And when I said that men started it, and women began supporting themselves because they had to, I was told over and over by the men of Free Republic that No No No, women started this trend.

43 posted on 05/23/2026 5:02:14 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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44 posted on 05/23/2026 5:06:26 AM PDT by bankwalker (Feminists, like all Marxists, are ungrateful parasites.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Wait.... that can't be right. Women were still being housewives and mothers. They could vote, but that was it. Feminism as we know it was still a good 20 years away. I have been told over and over on this forum that men didn't start rejecting marriage, women did. Women became feminists, entered the workplace, took over the colleges... and THAT was why men were drawing back. And when I said that men started it, and women began supporting themselves because they had to, I was told over and over by the men of Free Republic that No No No, women started this trend.

Men started rejecting marriage when the terms started to change to their detriment. You make the deal worse and worse and worse for someone you're going to reach a point when fewer and fewer of them will agree to make the deal.

94 posted on 05/23/2026 7:28:56 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: A_perfect_lady
Since the 1950s, she suggested, men had begun rebelling against the breadwinner ethic, inspired by Playboy culture, the counterculture and a desire for personal freedom.
Wait. [...] I have been told over and over on this forum that men didn't start rejecting marriage, women did. Women became feminists, entered the workplace, took over the colleges... and THAT was why men were drawing back. [...] I was told over and over by the men of Free Republic that No No No, women started this trend.

Right, A_perfect_lady! You've put your finger on just one of the many serious flaws of the original article!

Thank you for pointing out yet another major fallacy contained in this article!

Regards,

151 posted on 05/23/2026 10:42:49 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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