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To: blackdog; AuntB; ProgressingAmerica
I think this means a new and even more toxic herbicide for large Ag application has been developed.

Correct. It's glufosinate ammonium. It's the same damned game as was played with DDT and Freon: ban the product when the patent expires.

Bayer bought Monsanto. The patent on glyphosate had run out. Private label producers had jumped into the market. What to do? Make glyphosate a carcinogen! Guess where the original study fingering glyphosate was done? Germany. And it was the typical study with outrageous dosages.

The reason Bayer bought Monsanto was for the "Roundup Ready" seed technology. They had glufosinate ammonium patented and ready, complete with glufosinate ammonium tolerant seed.

So, once California lawyers latched onto it, the fear of lawsuits terrified every private label producer out of the market, and Monsanto had their monopoly back. Oh but the settlements have been so big that Bayer is bitching.

Best laid plans.

16 posted on 04/26/2026 9:04:33 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie
100 Things You Should Know About DDT

NO… Monsanto’s Roundup does not cause cancer

And so on. The "ozone hole" that supposedly justified banning freon was actually caused by a volcano.

As the world starts to use AI, this kind of BS is only going to get worse. The problem is that the consequences of exotic species and "preserving the environment" include mass extinctions. This isn't about whether or not a chemical or technology is perfect; it's about how to minimize competing risks in each particular instance. We don't know enough to be making blanket prescriptions as policy.

19 posted on 04/26/2026 9:26:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

As usual, the issue is not the issue.

Big government is the issue.

This is not me agreeing with you, BTW. But here is what the formula and the process looks like:

Unfortunately, that would make the protesters useful idiots for Bayer if what you say is true. Bayer wants the current product banned so that they can get into the new patented product and all the fear pumped out there gets the useful idiots protesting and the ban happens.

Big government wins.

Big government always wins. Even under Trump big government is finding ways to win, bigly.


23 posted on 04/26/2026 9:53:45 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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