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To: zeestephen

Here’s the problem.

We can go to the Moon and Mars, but we can’t stay.
If we stay, we can’t come back.
If we don’t come back, we will die prematurely.

The weaker gravity seems cool at first, but our bodies will adapt to it by reducing the strength and size of muscles. We will probably end up shaped more like a giant pear. Going back to Earth would likely cause a heart attack just entering the Earth’s atmosphere. If you survive that, you’ll stroke out just walking out of the spacecraft.

Besides the gravity, Mars has a second concern.
THE DUST.

Imagine living in an environment full of microscopic dust particles, thinner and sharper than a razor blade, and an electrostatic charge that sticks them to everything, like a magnet and iron dust.

Maybe technology can find a way to deal with these problems in the future, but right now it is not possible.

We are a product of our environment. Change the environment and our bodies will adapt. Do we want that adaptation ? What will we look like ? Giant pears with foot long limbs ?

If we adapted and then tried to come back, we would die probably just entering Earth’s atmosphere. If we survived that, we would have a heart attack just trying to walk out of the spacecraft.

But I say go for it. If it was easy it would have no value.


11 posted on 04/24/2026 7:01:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Sailing the Sea of Ignorance on a Ship named Free Republic)
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To: UCANSEE2

That reminds me of (I think) an Asimov story or maybe short novel, set on the Moon. One of the premises is, the Earth colonists construct underground habitats, and in the process of digging them out, they encounter pockets of water ice, which slowly thaw and drip out. Most of them are expended in months, but one is called “The Eternal” and has been dripping for years. The male lead character wants to have a fling with a woman who was born on the Moon, and she turns him down because he could inadvertently break one of her legs during the act. The last sentence is “[his character name] stopped hesitating.”


13 posted on 04/24/2026 8:48:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (TDS -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Anyone going to Mars will have to stay there because the year-long trip would have so deteriorated their earthly bodies that they would probably die if they came back.

Then there is the rocket shot to leave Mars. No backup engineers, no supply chains, no modifications can be made. Rocket launches from earth require hundreds of tests and redundancies and ready supplies. Only one attempt can be made; fail and the whole crew dies.

Making it to Mars with our current technology is a long shot.

What is 100% however, is that Musk and Bezos launching all of their crap into earth orbit will soon create a Kessler Event (space junk crashing into other orbital space junk) that will effectively prevent anyone from leaving the earth for all time.


14 posted on 04/24/2026 9:03:56 PM PDT by bakeneko
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To: UCANSEE2

“The weaker gravity seems cool at first, but our bodies will adapt to it by reducing the strength and size of muscles. We will probably end up shaped more like a giant pear. Going back to Earth would likely cause a heart attack just entering the Earth’s atmosphere. If you survive that, you’ll stroke out just walking out of the spacecraft.”

There are lots of assumptions baked into your ideas...

One counterpoint is that centrifuges are a way to counteract the lower gravity. They’ll almost certainly be needed for permanent habitation on the Moon, it’s less certain for Mars. It’s possible just having the sleeping quarters in a centrifugal environment would be enough to keep human physiology happy.

Strength can be maintained at arbitrary levels with resistance training, regardless of gravity. Therefore, lack of strength or not being able to return to Earth aren’t legitimate concerns.

“Besides the gravity, Mars has a second concern.
THE DUST.

Imagine living in an environment full of microscopic dust particles, thinner and sharper than a razor blade, and an electrostatic charge that sticks them to everything, like a magnet and iron dust.”

That would be bad...but it’s actually a complete non-issue. Outside, where there is dust, you need to be in an airtight suit, therefore there’s no exposure. To get inside, you need to use an airlock. Part of the airlock cycling process will involve removing any dust from the outside of the suit. Most likely the next step after airlock will be suit removal and storage.

The interior spaces, almost certainly underground, will have sealed walls, and no dust issues. Just a few feet of regolith or rock also provides excellent radiation shielding.

What’s the point of being there, you ask? The answer is a whole new world’s worth of resources, plus building the technology to spread throughout the Solar System. As another poster pointed out, space based habitats should also be prime real estate.

You’re being far too pessimistic.


16 posted on 04/25/2026 11:22:41 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever! Trump Won!!!)
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To: UCANSEE2
”Imagine living in an environment full of microscopic dust particles, thinner and sharper than a razor blade, and an electrostatic charge that sticks them to everything, like a magnet and iron dust.”

Who you jivin with that cosmic debris?

17 posted on 04/25/2026 11:28:59 AM PDT by HandyDandy (“Borders, language and culture.” Michael Savage)
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