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To: MtnClimber
When one of my grandmothers (immigrant from Italy {legal}, 1890s, arrived age 4) went to New York City public schools at age 7, it was sink or swim learn English. No special programs what with all the differing (dare I say "diverse") immigrant backgrounds.

Also, the "indoctrination" (civics lessons) were geared toward making good Americans. They also learned reading and arithmetic. Most left after 8th grade graduation ready to work in a business and more well read than most high schoolers (or teachers) today.

And the parents approved. In many cases the children taught their parents English.

I don't want to over-romanticize. There were plenty of problems. But what I described no longer exists even as an ideal.

18 posted on 04/03/2026 6:26:40 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman
When one of my grandmothers (immigrant from Italy {legal}, 1890s, arrived age 4) went to New York City public schools at age 7, it was sink or swim learn English. No special programs what with all the differing (dare I say "diverse") immigrant backgrounds.

Both my parents were immigrants and still spoke their native tongue at home. Consequently, when I started kindergarten, I didn't speak a word of English. And it was the same for me...sink or swim. I was told I was speaking English after a couple of weeks, although I have no recollection of the transition. Sink or swim is the best way to learn English.

51 posted on 04/03/2026 9:33:21 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: Salman

My grandparents learned English as well.


58 posted on 04/03/2026 10:05:16 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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