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I am no expert I’ll leave it to others but generally - I think- the law is considered to be the Constitution and cannot be overridden


30 posted on 04/02/2026 8:10:39 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

“ I am no expert….”

That’s obvious.

“ I think- the law is considered to be the Constitution and cannot be overridden.”

That doesn’t even make sense.

L


36 posted on 04/02/2026 8:25:29 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: RandFan; paudio; Lurker; All
Thank you for posting RandFan.

He should propose a bill to repeal 2023 National Defense Authorization Act that requires a 75% of votes in Congress to withdraw from a treaty.


First, the Constitution puts a time limit on military spending.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

So the taxpayer dollars allocated for Biden's 2023 National Defense Authorization Act are constitutionally expired imo.

H O W E V E R...

Even though it can be argued that subsequent funding for Ukraine might still be in effect, the 2023 National Defense Authorization [& Democratic taxpayer dollars laundering imo] Act was arguably unconstitutional in the first place as per Justice Joseph Story's clarification that nothing in Section 8 authorizes peacetime foreign aid of any kind.

If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous (as for instance [all emphases added], for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles. Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).

Based on Story's clarification, the peacetime 2023 National Defense Authorization Act probably wouldn't have passed the Madison Test for Section 8-authorized federal spending.

Regarding the Madison Test, note that the 14th Congress in the time of President James Madison (4th pres.), Madison generally regarded as the father of the Constitution, had found some EXISTING tax revenues and got all happy about spending it. So Congress drafted the Bonus Bill of 1817 to use the taxpayer dollars to improve military readiness and commerce by authorizing the construction of roads and canals intended to facilitate moving troops and manufactured goods. But Congress had based the bill solely on the General Welfare Clause (GWC) which turned out to be a BIG mistake.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States [emphasis added]; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

More specifically, while Madison AGREED with Congress that the bill would improve federal purpose transportation, he diplomatically clarified in his veto explanation that while the GWC authorizes Congress to tax and spend, he reminded Congress that the Constitution's drafters, Madison himself a major player, had intended for the clauses that followed it in Section 8 to limit what Congress could spend tax dollars for, no mention of roads and canals for Congress's purpose for the Bonus Bill. Madison also noted that the bonus bill didn't even pass Congress's traditional "wild card" excuse for justifying spending, the infamous "Necessary and Proper Clause."

The legislative powers vested in Congress are specified and enumerated in the eighth section of the first article of the Constitution, and it does not appear that the power proposed to be exercised by the bill is among the enumerated powers, or that it falls by any just interpretation within the power to make laws necessary and proper [emphasis added] for carrying into execution those or other powers vested by the Constitution in the Government of the United States.President James Madison, March 3, 1817: Veto Message on the Internal Improvements Bill

In fact, note that the only roads that the Founders expressly gave Congress the specific power to authorize are postal roads.

Again, the post-16th and 17th Amendment ratification Congress cannot justify peacetime foreign spending of any kind anymore that they can justify domestic roads for military support.

63 posted on 04/02/2026 10:27:55 AM PDT by Amendment10
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