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To: ProtectOurFreedom; nickcarraway
Looks like certain subspecies of the Southern pacific rattlesnake have now been confirmed to have neurotoxic properties like the Mohave and timber rattlesnakes.

That means their venom is hemotoxic, cytotoxic, and now neurotoxic.....a hell of a battle in the ICU. I bet she died from complications breathing. It would be like treating a patient who couldn't clot, massive tissue damage, and having stroke symptoms with lack of breathing!

From the Annals of Emergency Medicine (Toxicology Report) March 2024

Abstract The Southern Pacific rattlesnake (Crotalus helleri) is commonly encountered throughout Southern California. Typical toxicity includes tissue injury and hematologic toxicity. However, neurotoxicity is not commonly reported with rattlesnake envenomations, other than infrequently with select species, including the Mojave rattlesnake (Crotalus scutulatus scutulatus). Importantly, clinical neurotoxicity has not been well described with the Southern Pacific rattlesnake, the only rattlesnake in the city of Los Angeles, along with the Southern and coastal regions of Los Angeles County. In this case series, 7 patients envenomated by the Southern Pacific rattlesnake with significant neurotoxicity, including dysarthria, ataxia, and myokymia, are presented. Clinicians practicing in this region should be aware of evolving patterns of toxicity associated with the Southern Pacific rattlesnake.

89 posted on 03/29/2026 7:29:55 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: DCBryan1
Of course, other actions of the venom ARE fatal.

So, if you see somebody stumbling around with slurred speech on your hikes, think "rattlesnake-bite victim." Good to know.

FTA --> "Clinicians practicing in this region should be aware of evolving patterns of toxicity associated with the Southern Pacific rattlesnake."

Now that's interesting...it sounds like the snakes are evoloving their venom! Or maybe it's just the understanding of the venom that's evolving.

94 posted on 03/29/2026 7:55:40 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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