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To: ProgressingAmerica

i am trying to find the influence on the founding fathers with respect to the separation of church and state... can you assist please. i cannot find it in the constitution.


2 posted on 03/19/2026 8:45:30 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: teeman8r

With regard to the new, second wall of separation between church and state that was erected with the 1947 Everson case and subsequent cases,

I agree, that second wall of separation is not in the constitution.


3 posted on 03/19/2026 11:01:44 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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To: teeman8r

I meant to get back to you sooner, time escaped me.

The influence is not only John Locke but also Roger Williams and Rhode Island. I also think Montesquieu, but I don’t remember ATM. I do know it wasn’t a 1-off influence to get here.

In the Constitution there is no wall of separation between Morality and State, which was erected primarily in Everson. The second wall. This second wall is extra-constitutional and should not be there.

The first original wall is in the first 10 words of the First Amendment. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”.


7 posted on 04/07/2026 7:26:00 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. Progressivism is a suicide pact.)
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