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Uh huh. And you have the nerve to call me ignorant. Which state was the 16th?

West Virginia, ignorant.

Wasn't quite a state yet, but it had already seceded from Virginia.

But yeah, let's ignore the REAL point, and focus on trivial bullshit.

There was no possible way to pass a constitutional amendment banning slavery, and to think there was, just shows an incredible amount of ignorance about the subject matter.

Uh huh. Then what was Bleeding Kansas all about?

Money and power. Just as I told you.

If Kansas sided with the slave states, their votes in Congress could cut off those hundreds of millions of dollars going into the corrupt Northern businesses who controlled the Union government.

Your problem is that you have just bought into all the propaganda because you wish to believe it. You *WANT* the history that has been taught to be true, and you don't want to see anything that calls it into question.

That’s right. Lincoln and the Republicans line was not interfering with slavery WHERE IT ALREADY EXISTED.

Which coincidentally keeps them from ever getting enough votes in congress to shut off the money spigot going to the corrupt North and it's corruptly controlled government.

34 at that time, and more free states were coming.

See how ignorant this is? You think enough "free states" would come in to get to 64, which is how many you would need to override the 16 slave states?

Man, that's incredibly ignorant and naive. You are grasping at straws because you do not want to actually consider the problem of passing a constitutional amendment to ban slavery.

You know in your heart it was impossible, yet you *WANT* to believe it could happen because you've pinned your understanding of what *DID* happened on this theory that "it could have happen."

No, it couldn't happen. It was literally impossible.

“The fight was over money and power”

Yes, power to protect slavery.

To protect *THEIR SHARE* of the profits from slavery, meaning all the money going into the North which all Northern industrialists very much liked. Also, the vast bulk of the money going into the US Federal government, which the government also liked.

You keep trying to make this war the fault of the Southerners who were overtaxed and had massive amounts of money taken from them by the Union, because you refuse to see the people stealing their money (through law) as the bad guys.

Even when I point out that the corrupt Northern government *VOTED FOR PERMANENT SLAVERY* you make excuses for why they did it, and refuse to understand they *DID IT TO KEEP THE MONEY FLOWING INTO THEIR POCKETS*!!!

The Northern controlled government *VOTED FOR PERMANENT SLAVERY*.

You can deny that reality, but it won't go away.