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1 posted on 02/09/2026 9:36:24 AM PST by Libloather
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2 posted on 02/09/2026 9:40:37 AM PST by DFG
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The only thing I don’t like about fracking is that we are locking our water deep in the earth and it may not work itself back to the surface anytime soon.


3 posted on 02/09/2026 9:48:58 AM PST by Jonty30 (I always ask AI stupid questions to avoid the smart lists for elimination. I want to surprise it.)
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What’s “the truth?”


4 posted on 02/09/2026 9:51:37 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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What I do not understand about fracking is the apparent ability of landowner A to run a horizontal bore for several miles and take the resources that are below the surface of other landowners. How does that work?

I posed the question to Grok and got this answer:

The apparent ability of a landowner (or more precisely, an oil and gas operator leasing rights from him) to drill a horizontal well extending several miles and extract resources from beneath neighboring properties stems from a combination of geological realities, technological capabilities, and long-established legal principles in the United States, particularly in states with significant fracking activity such as Texas, Pennsylvania, and others.

Oil and gas resources, especially in shale formations targeted by fracking, reside in porous rock where the hydrocarbons can migrate toward areas of lower pressure. In conventional vertical drilling, this migratory ("fugacious") nature led to the development of the **rule of capture**. This common-law doctrine holds that whoever first reduces oil or gas to possession—by producing it through a well on his property—owns it outright, even if some of the resource originally lay beneath an adjacent property and migrated across subsurface boundaries. Courts have treated oil and gas analogously to wild animals or percolating groundwater: ownership is not fixed until capture occurs, and no liability arises for drainage alone if the well is lawfully drilled on the operator's leased land. The only remedy for an affected neighbor is typically to drill his own offset well to compete for the resource.

Horizontal drilling, combined with hydraulic fracturing (fracking), extends this principle dramatically. A well begins vertically on the leased property, then turns horizontally (often 1–2 miles or more) within the target formation. Fracking injects high-pressure fluid to create fractures in the rock, releasing trapped gas or oil that flows back to the wellbore. Because the resource is liberated and migrates toward the low-pressure wellbore, production can draw from a wide area—potentially including subsurface volumes beneath unleased neighboring lands—without physical invasion of the neighbor's property by the wellbore itself.

In most jurisdictions, courts have applied the rule of capture to such operations, provided the wellbore remains within the leased boundaries and does not physically deviate into another's subsurface estate (a "deviated" or "bottomed-out" well, which would constitute subsurface trespass). Key rulings, such as those from Texas courts, affirm that fracking-induced drainage does not create liability under the rule of capture, as the process creates artificial flow paths analogous to natural migration in conventional reservoirs. Pennsylvania's Supreme Court has similarly upheld the rule's application to hydraulic fracturing in conventional and unconventional contexts, though lower courts have occasionally allowed trespass claims where fractures physically extend fluids or proppant across boundaries (a question that remains debated and varies by state).

However, the rule of capture is not absolute protection. Several mechanisms limit or address the issue:

- **Forced pooling or compulsory unitization** statutes in many states allow regulators to combine mineral interests into a drilling unit (often 40–640 acres or more, depending on the formation and regulations). If an operator secures leases or rights to a majority percentage of the unit (e.g., 60–75%), state agencies may compel non-consenting owners into the unit. The operator can then legally produce from the entire unit, including beneath holdouts, while paying royalties or compensatory shares to non-consenting owners. This prevents wasteful "race to drill" and protects correlative rights (each owner's fair opportunity to develop the shared reservoir).

- **Trespass liability** arises if the horizontal wellbore crosses into unleased subsurface property or if fracking causes physical invasion (e.g., fractures extending proppant or fluid across lines in ways deemed unreasonable). Some courts distinguish fracking from mere drainage, but the majority view in major producing states favors the rule of capture absent clear physical intrusion or damage.

In practice, operators prefer voluntary leasing and pooling agreements to avoid litigation, but the legal framework incentivizes development by allowing efficient horizontal wells to access broad reservoir areas from a single pad. This explains why one operator can extract resources from beneath multiple properties: the law prioritizes maximizing recovery and preventing waste over strict subsurface boundary enforcement for migratory resources.

These rules vary by state—Texas and Oklahoma lean heavily on the rule of capture, while some eastern states have seen more challenges—and mineral rights ownership (often severed from surface rights) further complicates the picture. If your question relates to a specific jurisdiction or property, consulting local oil and gas law or a specialist attorney would provide precise guidance.


5 posted on 02/09/2026 9:57:09 AM PST by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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“Good and bad don’t factor into [fracking]. Our great-grandparents built a world that runs on this s__t right here. . . . . There is an alternative. You can throw your phone away and trade that Mercedes in for a bicycle or a horse and start hunting for your own food and living in a tent. But you’ll be the only one, and it won’t make a damn bit of difference. Plus I hear the moral high ground gets real windy at night.”

Billy Bob Thornton on Fracking in Landman.

6 posted on 02/09/2026 9:57:44 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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They hydrofrack water wells around here all the time IF they well water gallons per minute drops.

My former neighbor had their well done about twenty years ago. The well was about thirty years old and had a reduced flow rate. They fracked the well and it started flowing much better. It was also a lot cheaper than drilling a new well. Which was about $6K-8K at the time. Typically for the first 200’.


7 posted on 02/09/2026 9:58:45 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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Bkmk


8 posted on 02/09/2026 10:01:05 AM PST by sauropod
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Fracking is the high-tech of the oil/gas business, and the USA developed and owns this technology by a wide margin. No one is even close. Its a foundation and weapon of American independence

Without fracking, the US is tied to energy production and regulations elsewhere in the world.

To this end, the EU and Davos’ main weapon to control world financial flows (which are all based on Energy production) via the whole green-energy and carbon-trading scam - was to promote anti-fracking in the USA.

Where did the Davos neo-marxists learn it? The Soviets (and later the Russians) have funded the EU green movement and anti-oil and gas (and fracking) as well as the green movement in Europe, to help keep their own wells pumping and to keep the EU dependent.


9 posted on 02/09/2026 10:03:20 AM PST by PGR88
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In 1897, German mechanical engineer Rudolf Diesel invented the diesel engine with financial help from the Krupp family, financiers of the Third Reich.

The Krupp family in 1897 had never heard of the Third Reich. Nor had anyone else. What sort of nonsense propaganda is this author trying to shove down our throats?

11 posted on 02/09/2026 10:07:04 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Fracing is mostly sand, water, hair gel, and dishwashing soap.


19 posted on 02/09/2026 11:07:03 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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Oh, and horsepower.


20 posted on 02/09/2026 11:11:56 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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Back when I was a child living in Oklahoma oil fields, fracking was done with nitroglycerin. About five miles from where I lived two frackers were killed loading the ‘torpedo’ with nitro. No one knew what had happened. No body parts were found.


23 posted on 02/09/2026 11:57:50 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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When the oil runs out...there is plenty of liquid methane deep off the atlantic coast.


30 posted on 02/09/2026 12:43:02 PM PST by spokeshave ( Angry Dads. Grumpy Grandads, Curmudgeons & old Geezers)
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I love it.


34 posted on 02/09/2026 2:36:48 PM PST by yldstrk
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