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To: Cobra64

I just watched a video, where a man breaks down shots from other videos to demonstrate what actually/probably happened. It shows that his gun was loaded...as they wrestled with him, one noticed his gun and shouted, “gun”, that’s when some drew their weapons. The man that disarmed him was moving away when the weapon went off (as that type weapon has a history of doing unintentionally) and it looks like they were keyed up and since it was within a second of the disarming, word hadn’t gotten around and it looks lie their response reaction was “contagious” gunfire, which is perfectly understandable under the conditions.


92 posted on 01/27/2026 5:12:27 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: trebb; All

What is the make and model of the weapon?


132 posted on 01/27/2026 8:33:18 AM PST by Cobra64 (ECommon sense isn’t common anymore. )
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To: trebb

Not only that, but the officers had no way to know that that was Pretti’s only weapon. I think they also saw Pretti reaching for his holster with something in his hand. It was his phone, but it would be difficult to know that in the chaos of the moment.


175 posted on 01/28/2026 12:26:39 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction (Vim vi repellere licet)
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To: trebb
disarmed him was moving away when the weapon went off (as that type weapon has a history of doing unintentionally)

I will be dollars to donuts that the officer fingered the weapon and it did NOT go off by itself. Why would the gun suddenly go off (fire) by itself after all the other stuff the fellow did (jostling around)... He was carrying the gun the previous encounter when he kicked the ICE vehicle and the gun didn't go off.

The Air Force fellow that claimed the gun went off on it's own later was found guilty of lying and that his finger was on the trigger. Sig got a bad rap, and the videos of it going off had the trigger stagged to the wall before shaking them to fire. Any gun that is staged to the end of trigger pull will fire if shaken enough.

That said, I fully place the blame on the fellow shot (Alex) for putting himself in the position he did. His very actions ended up in this terrible situation, and his very death. If only he didn't interfere in rightful police business, he probable would still be alive. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

186 posted on 02/04/2026 11:02:01 PM PST by LowOiL (In America today, it is considered worse to judge evil than to do evil - Burk Parsons)
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