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To: adorno

Adorno, I love you but your information is way off in my opinion. You are listening to liars trying to keep the money flowing. If they hadn’t stolen so much of it, Ukraine would be better off but would still lose. 144 million against 19 million, and all the “helpers” are out of weapons, guns and money. Ukraine can’t even try a counteroffensive, the recent attempt failed to go anywhere.
We are in the worst part of every war, the needless death and destruction after the outcome is obvious. I hate that.


22 posted on 12/20/2025 11:52:51 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....I voted for this too!)
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To: SaxxonWoods
I love you but your information is way off in my opinion.

You are one of the least infuriating posters on FR.

But, I disagree with you, ardently.

You can have an opinion, but it's an uninformed opinion.

How the heck do you think Ukraine has survived almost 4 years after the initial invasion by Russia?

Ukraine has been battling Russia to a standstill, all with a much lower military force. Why is that? If numerical superiority is what wins wars, why is Russia stuck in a quagmire?

Russia is still struggling to continue occupying the same original 20% of Ukraine they took at the beginning of the war. If they were making any progress, they would be at 21% or higher. They are NOT.

Progress on a treadmill is no progress at all. You can't conquer any more land on a treadmill.

Since 2022, the most progress Russia made was a bit over 1% more than they ended up with after the initial invasion; that was from 19% to 20%. And that progress was at the expense of more than a million casualties to Russia.

Think again, because it's YOU that has a huge misunderstanding about how things are going. Russia is not winning, and Ukraine is not winning. But if making progress is measured with territorial gains, Russia is in no way winning.
33 posted on 12/20/2025 12:29:56 PM PST by adorno ( )
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