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To: MtnClimber

Lies, lies, and more lies. There is absolutely no contest. Fossil fuels are by far more efficient, more cost effective, less invasive, and more reliable than any other source of energy except maybe hydro. Leftist loonies don’t talk about the pollution from mining materials for solar, the 700 gallons or more of oil necessary to lube wind turbines that has to be changed. Oil leaks? You bet. Blades need to be sprayed with an anti-freeze before a snow or ice storm. Where does the residual go? How many birds including eagles die? What a complete fraud.


16 posted on 12/15/2025 6:00:23 AM PST by Omnivore-Dan (have to )
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To: Omnivore-Dan

All correct.

The most fundamental issue of all of them is: without a huge influx of transmission infrastructure, energy storage arrays, backup fossil fuel generators ready to jump into production at a second’s notice, and all the rest of that expensive pap, solar and wind power are incompatible with the current iteration of the energy grid that expands and contracts on a second by second basis, a grid that must by nature operate in a level fashion by having energy providing sources shut down to stop the flow into a grid that is already too full of unused energy, or have energy dumped into the grid if the demand is too high.

Solar and wind, without gargantuan influxes of money and infrastructure (apart from the already expensive wind turbines and solar panel farms) simply cannot live as a vital part of the currently constructed grid. They are fun “nice to have” things, like making hay when the sun is shining, but as a vital adjunct, they are useless.


20 posted on 12/15/2025 6:15:22 AM PST by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: Omnivore-Dan

Nuclear is cheap.


78 posted on 12/15/2025 3:32:19 PM PST by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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