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To: Jim W N
What will it take to DISMANTLE THE 80%+, $3+ TRILLION UNCONSTITUTIONAL PORTION OF THE FEDERAL GOV'T

What will it take?

It will take so-called "conservatives" understanding that Social Security and Medicare must end. The government must entirely end its business of providing old-age pensions, old-age medical insurance, and monetary support to the poor. It does all these things badly. It has no constitutional authority to do any of them.

And now supposed conservatives on a supposedly conservative wwweb forum will begin screeching at me.

24 posted on 12/04/2025 2:22:57 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

It is OK with me.

Of course if Republicans run on that platform the victorious Democrats will be using all of us for slave labor by 2030—so it won’t matter anyway.

Lol.


28 posted on 12/04/2025 2:26:23 PM PST by cgbg (The master is nice only when the dog behaves as expected.)
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To: NorthMountain

Easy for you to say, I am 64 and paid into SS for my whole life. I need my money back when I retire next year.


34 posted on 12/04/2025 2:30:35 PM PST by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: NorthMountain

“It will take so-called “conservatives” understanding that Social Security and Medicare must end. The government must entirely end its business of providing old-age pensions, old-age medical insurance, and monetary support to the poor. It does all these things badly. It has no constitutional authority to do any of them.”

It has the power to tax incomes, without apportionment due to AMENDMENT XVI.

“The Congress shall have power to dispose of...property belonging to the United States”

ARTICLE IV SECTION 2

Congress can take your hard-earned money and give it to a garbage man to throw in his truck, or to give to his sister, or to your doctor.


43 posted on 12/04/2025 2:38:40 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: NorthMountain

“Social Security and Medicare must end”

I’ve paid property taxes to pay for K-12 education for about forty years.

I expect the educated kiddies to throw some money back my way. I’ve had no children.


46 posted on 12/04/2025 2:45:11 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: NorthMountain
What will it take? It will take so-called "conservatives" understanding that Social Security and Medicare must end

1) Medicare/federal "healthcare" is a no-brainer: end it NOW!!!! Medicare/federal "healthcare" is the lion's share of federal spending. And at some point, the feds pay back Medicare taxes.

2) Social Security is more problematic. It is unconstitutional but since many rely on it for their financial survival, it should be gradually ramped down.

3) End the balance of unconstitutional federal spending and agencies NOW!!!

Do this and most of the problem is solved. The only thing left is how to humanely ramp down Social Security. But we will be well on our way to recovery of our Free Constitutional Republic, and individual freedom and prosperity.

50 posted on 12/04/2025 2:53:15 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: NorthMountain
What will it take? It will take so-called "conservatives" understanding that Social Security and Medicare must end

1) Medicare/federal "healthcare" is a no-brainer: end it NOW!!!! Medicare/federal "healthcare" is the lion's share of federal spending. And at some point, the feds pay back Medicare taxes.

2) Social Security is more problematic. It is unconstitutional but since many rely on it for their financial survival, it should be gradually ramped down.

3) End the balance of unconstitutional federal spending and agencies NOW!!!

Do this and most of the problem is solved. The only thing left is how to humanely ramp down Social Security. But we will be well on our way to recovery of our Free Constitutional Republic, and individual freedom and prosperity.

52 posted on 12/04/2025 2:54:21 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: NorthMountain

Oh yes, end the Social Security and Medicare and 99% of seniors vote Democrat.


74 posted on 12/04/2025 3:52:59 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: NorthMountain

Uh, they are funded by separate taxes. We pay in, we take out later.

If they quit spending the money and invested it in the S&P we’d have trillions to pay out.


89 posted on 12/04/2025 4:35:39 PM PST by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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