Posted on 12/04/2025 11:15:24 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
To not go after an airline where the PIC had around 500 hours and instead went for Boeing where there is way more money, bespeaks less of justice and more of greed either on the plaintiff’s part or more likely the ‘pro bono’ lawyer. Did you have all those facts regarding 737MAX crashes in the US? Were those not Boeings? What was the difference between the foreign carriers that crashed and the US and first world ones that didn’t? That’s justice.
“The spokesman for AMERICAN Airlines’ pilots union called Boeing’s insinuation that foreign pilots were to blame for the crashes involving 737 MAX jets “inexcusable” and said AA pilots made several suggestions to Boeing to fix the 737 MAX’s systems before the second plane crash.”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/23/business/american-airlines-boeing-pilots-union
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With blowout probe done, lawsuits take off against Boeing, Alaska Air
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/with-blowout-probe-done-lawsuits-take-off-against-boeing-alaska-air/
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” I and many others want to see to what extent DEI played a role in this crap.”
While Boeing is littered with DEI hires, the MAX problem wasn’t a result of that. It was a result of Boeing desiring to get a new airplane out the door quickly and cheated all known rules to do it.
“When the same happened here, the pilots turned the switch off. “
You obviously do not know the whole story.
In general, I would prefer to have aviators flying a plane rather than pilots. There are too many things that can go wrong. Captain Sullenberger is the high example. And, obviously, pilots’ unions will object.
I thought the undying worship of authorities was a Leftist thing. Very wrong.
Even Trump deserves criticism and accountability. Nobody is god. Shame on both of you.
Speaking for myself only, I take your sanctimonious disapproval as high praise.
Xone?
BS, got it from an active pilot after the two crashes. The foreign pilots were undertrained by any stretch of the imagination. I am a Safety School grad and it is obvious when two different pilot groups have different outcomes from the same 'emergency', it is no longer a 'system fault' causing the accidents. It is training and experience. Your EXPERIENCE may differ, but it is no longer fact based.
You are pathetic, blaming God. If you can feel shame, now's the time. Get educated before you emotionally opine. You are an embarrassment on tech issues.
I saw your post after the emoter. An idiot like that should have to pass a knowledge test. But you and I are godless. The fact she disagrees with me proves I am right. No knowledge, just bs along with her acolytes.
You know what’s funny?
Read the thread. I never made ANY comment about the 737MAX8 problems, or who was responsible for them. I just asked what you used to fly.
And THAT makes me “godless” apparently ...
It’s absurd!
For the record ... I think Boeing has problems. And the FAA has problems. And the whole 737MAX8 design issue stems in large part from bureaucratic stupidity.
BUT ...
Pilot training and maintenance practices are king. Always. And it’s no accident that the two fatal crashes occurred in the turd-world on turd-world airlines. The airline has primary responsibility to maintain and operate the equipment properly. If they can’t do that, they should either get different equipment or go out of business.
My Dad told me (back when I was learning to drive) that most car crashes result from problems with the nut behind the wheel ... that goes double for aviation.
” I am a Safety School grad”
WTF is a safety school???
You refuse to concede that even American pilots had sounded the alarm on about what was wrong about the MAX’s mechanisms. All of which went ignored prior to the 2nd crash.
Yes honor and integrity are in short supply in general, but to be this willingly sycophantic of people in power is a sickness akin to what you find in the doting, doe-eyex masses of fascist and Marxist regimes. Unbefitting of a site called “Free Republic.” It’s like do the Boeing CEO’s even pay you to be this subervient and defensive of them? 🙄
Consider yourself blessed you weren’t one the American couple who lost their only daughter.
I take your sanctimonious disapproval as high praise.
And just saw your reply on UPS plane. THAT case is not the same. Anyone capable of objectivity can see that. The Air India crash also this year, may somewhat implicate Boeing — given whistleblowers have been sounding the alarm about red flags in the Dreamliner manufacturing from way before (but still not the main culprit) — and the Alaska Air door blow-out was definitely Boeing…
But none of those situations have the stamp of blatant criminality the way the MAX crashes do.
Again you’re clearly in the tank for them to the death and are incapable of being objective, and take pride in being a sycophant.
I can at least acknowledge it did have a great reputation at one point. But a few of its leaders from the past decade belong in jail.
I suspect the primary qual for those pilots was that they spoke passable English which is the universal language of aviation.
Good. Did you learn anything from it? I'm trying to educate you ... are you able to learn, or only to hurl specious insults?
No surprise, your knowledge of all thing s aviation is nil.
I never equated the UPS plane to the Boeing MAX crashes. You are the one ignoring what American pilots said. So what’s your response to the Americans?
The spokesman for American Airlines’ pilots union called Boeing’s insinuation that foreign pilots were to blame for the crashes involving 737 MAX jets “inexcusable” and said AA pilots made several suggestions to Boeing to fix the 737 MAX’s systems before the second plane crash.
Tajer, who has flown the 737 MAX, argues the Ethiopian Airlines pilots did what they were instructed to do but that Boeing’s MCAS forced the plane into such an aggressive downward angle that the pilots could not recover.
“They had wired that thing so that it was irrecoverable. It just blew us away,” Tajer said.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/23/business/american-airlines-boeing-pilots-union
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