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To: Morgana
She was taken to the hospital, but the writer gives no info regarding how long after she was put in the jail call that she went into labor and delivered. It says she was left alone, and her baby died in the cell. Are those the actual facts or a fabrication by the writer?

The article says she pressed the emergency intercom. Excuse me, but jail and prison cells aren't equipped with emergency intercoms, so who is lying here? Was she in an actual jail cell or in a single locked room in a psych wing of the jail because she was mentally ill? Or was she actually in a treatment room at the jail's infirmary. A room in a psych wing or in the infirmary would likely have an intercom for her to press for help. Something is missing here.

The article is written to provide sympathy for this woman. I don't trust any reporter to search out the true facts and provide them in a story like this. The writer left out a lot of facts, and a lot of questions left unanswered. Jails and prisons don't have doctors on-site 24 hours a day. They do have a nurse or nurses though. Jails and prisons aren't equipped to treat inmates with life-threatening conditions. They are taken to outside hospitals, many in ambulances, depending on the situation. This article provides no information regarding her transport to a local hospital. Jail or prison uniformed staff are required to go with them.

I'm an old lady now, but worked in uniform for 25 years in NY State's prison system. I only worked in male facilities, but I was also a divorced mother of two sons I raised by myself, so I know what its like to give birth with and without anesthesia, and none of them were when I had my pants on. Did this woman know how babies were made, but not how they were delivered? Was she even seeing a doctor during her pregnancy? Was she on meds for her mental problems? Again...questions unanswered.

A large number of these problems have been caused by State's closing psychiatric centers. Back in the early 80's, NY State Governor Mario Cuomo closed psychiatric centers all over the State, and tossed the residents into the street, claiming they'd get better treatment in the community. That turned out to be a big lie, and so those residents ended up as prisoners in NY State's prison system. I saw it first hand. One of the psychiatric centers he closed ended up becoming a prison that I spent most of my career at. The State prison system, and the staff ended up not only having to deal with convicted felons, but mentally ill convicted felons. I've been retired for almost 23 years, and the situation has only gotten worse. All one has to do is look at the number of mentally ill committing heinous crimes, then finding out how many times they'd been arrested and released before they finally murdered someone.

13 posted on 11/25/2025 2:34:47 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th
The article says she pressed the emergency intercom. Excuse me, but jail and prison cells aren't equipped with emergency intercoms, so who is lying here? Was she in an actual jail cell or in a single locked room in a psych wing of the jail because she was mentally ill? Or was she actually in a treatment room at the jail's infirmary. A room in a psych wing or in the infirmary would likely have an intercom for her to press for help. Something is missing here.

Most likely in the psych wing as she's been diagnosed as mentally incompetent.

It's good to not trust the article as the incident happened in 2020.

16 posted on 11/25/2025 4:54:49 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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