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1 posted on 11/17/2025 4:45:49 AM PST by MtnClimber
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I think there are many more than 22 million illegals. I would not be surprised if there are twice that many.


2 posted on 11/17/2025 4:46:00 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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The number is 11 MILLION. It was 11 Million when Biden’s Women took office in 2021. They imported another 12 Million over the 4 years they were in power, so you add it up and you get 11 MILLION.

What’s so confusing about that?


4 posted on 11/17/2025 4:51:41 AM PST by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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Better estimate is 30 millions of illegals.

About 12-16 million at the END of the Bush II residency.

4-6 million added (net) during Obama’s regime.

10-12 million - counted! - during the Obama-Biden-Harris 4 years, minus minus some double-way entry-exits-reentry. Perhaps another 2-4 millions who WERE NOT counted or registered by Biden.


5 posted on 11/17/2025 4:52:48 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE
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There’s at least 50 million illegals in the U.S. right now. There were 35-40 million prior to the Biden administration opening up the border and letting 10 million more stream in.


6 posted on 11/17/2025 4:53:29 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary?)
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It sure sounds like a trick to make honest citizens believe there are less illegals in the country than what really are present. Where did this statement originate?


7 posted on 11/17/2025 5:00:52 AM PST by oldtech
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It sure sounds like a trick to make honest citizens believe there are less illegals in the country than what really are present. Where did this statement originate?


8 posted on 11/17/2025 5:01:33 AM PST by oldtech
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“In fact, 3,000 deportations a day is pathetic. Trump is going to have to average 8,000 removals a day simply to rid us of the 10 million illegal aliens Joe Biden let in — forget the 40 million to 50 million illegals who were already here.”

https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/if-you-thought-service-at-home-depot


9 posted on 11/17/2025 5:02:34 AM PST by Lopeover (…AND SO IT BEGINS!)
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Hint:

3% (I.e., 10 million illlegals) - let alone 1.5% - of the population is not a number demonstrably high enough to compel

“press 1 for English, press 2 for spanish” (the latter in spanish language)

on a majority of commercial telephone auto attendant systems in the U.S.


10 posted on 11/17/2025 5:04:04 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 "/!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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Use that 10 million number for the census in blue states.


11 posted on 11/17/2025 5:04:07 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (Wake up, smell the cat food in your bank account. )
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The government should know the exact number of people who crossed the border at points of entry and were granted temporary asylum by the Biden administration. They were processed through as fast as possible and then transported by bus or plane to the interior of the country. I would just like to know that number.

I understand that the number of people who snuck in between points of entry must be estimated. The number who came at points of entry and the number of Visa overstayers should be knowable. .

Why aren’t they?


12 posted on 11/17/2025 5:05:11 AM PST by Freee-dame (The left never dreamed that Trump would be back in the White House in 2025. )
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The real problem is the quality, education and culture of the illegals here. Many don’t adapt, learn the language or add to the economy. Their children flood the school system. They suck up welfare. They vacuum up rentals, often at subsided rates making housing more expensive for citizens. Their drain of resources also makes it harder on citizens. In places like Tampa, you can’t get a low-end job unless you can speak Spanish. Again, making it harder on citizens. And who is it who advocates for illegals? White people who do not have to compete against them for their livelihood.


14 posted on 11/17/2025 5:05:39 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Has anyone seen my tagline? ...I know it was here...)
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We need a honest census.
Roberts prevented Trump from marking citizenship on last census forms.


16 posted on 11/17/2025 5:09:11 AM PST by AZJeep (sane )
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Who knew that the 2020 census even asked about illegal aliens? Especially since the Trump administration WANTED such a thing (a question regarding citizenship) but was shut down by the Supreme Court.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/06/27/2020-census-supreme-court-citizenship-question/ (apologies for using a far-left news source, but this time they aren’t lying)

Perhaps some expert can show us exactly where on the questionnaire that question was.

Illegal (not to mention legal) immigration needs to be greatly curtailed, and we do need to know just what we’re up against here, but making up census data isn’t the best way to evaluate the situation.


17 posted on 11/17/2025 5:12:00 AM PST by PermaRag (Facts, context, and more facts)
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Upwards of 60 million, popping out anchor babies like rabbits at Easter.


18 posted on 11/17/2025 5:15:08 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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I think the real number is closer to 25 or 30 million illegal aliens in the country.


19 posted on 11/17/2025 5:15:14 AM PST by FLT-bird
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Think of it this way the DACA arrivals took place when they were children and they were adults under Obama when he used his pen and his phone to give them some kind of limbo and they are still here the number is probably upwards of 50 million and it has been going on since Reagan(the greatest President of my lifetime) and Ted Kennedy fought over legal and illegal immigration during his tenure


23 posted on 11/17/2025 5:22:44 AM PST by cdpap
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Until 2020, the official media propaganda line for the number of illegal aliens residing in the us has bee 12 million.

The 12 million illegal aliens in the the US number was a low ball number concocted during the Clinton Administration for PR purposes to further the Left's illegal alien agendas.

Despite the fact that we have had about one million illegals crossing the border every year since the 1990s that 12 million number has not changed despite the fact that the massive numbers of illegal aliens who have flooded our country are so large that they are changing our national identity and demographics

After Obama was elected, the illegal alien immigration became a flood

it's gotten so bad that more than half of California's entire population is either: an immigrant legal and illegal but mostly illegal) themselves (1st generation), or the U.S.-born child of an immigrant (ie an anchor baby).

So the math works out to say and officially approved but already low ball number of 12 million in say 2000.

Another 15 million at least (25 million border crossers with a generous 10 million going back home) but the true number is probably higher and closer to 25 million

At least 12 million coming in under Biden

that is 12 million+ 15 million +12 million for a minimum of 39 million illegal aliens in the country - not counting their anchor babies.

Obama has fundamentally changed America

24 posted on 11/17/2025 5:36:53 AM PST by rdcbn1 (..when poets buy guns, tourist season is over................Walter R. Mead.l)
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The left always lies.

Like when they said 10% of the population was gay when it was actually 3-5% gay. Now, though, since the left has been given children to corrupt and abuse in the education system, that 10% is closer to reality.


25 posted on 11/17/2025 5:40:52 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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“I refuse even to have a conversation with people who provably lie to push their agenda.”

How about people who repeat a falsehood, a lie, because they erroneously believe it’s the truth? How can you convince them of their error without a conversation of some sort?


26 posted on 11/17/2025 5:45:52 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (c)
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… “I have to call BS on the 10 million number they are using.” …
I voted for President Trump to put the proper people and systems in place to sort this out.


28 posted on 11/17/2025 5:50:19 AM PST by daku
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