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Posted on 11/15/2025 6:20:35 AM PST by MtnClimber
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I think the intent was to destroy the medical system. It is just not fair to have a medical system when the third world has so little.
so it is named after the right person ?
The gop-e is just as complicit as the dims.
They may not have voted for the original bill but when they had control of the gubmint they did nothing to repeal it. Heck, they even voted to keep funding it.
Please, creative folks, take the melody from “Every Breath You Take” and add lyrics based on what we know is the standard result of leftist policies - “Everything you touch”.
Eagerly awaiting it.
“Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann (MN) warned that ‘This monstrosity of a bill will not only destroy the private healthcare market, it will lead to massive increases in premiums and rationed care.’”
And yet, it PASSED and it managed to do what it set out to do - screw ‘We The People’ and enrich a few of our ‘betters.’
Tell me another one, Grandpa!
(Obamacare Is a Disaster, Just as Expected)
Obamacare Is a Disaster, Just as PLANNED
Everything Obama related is a disaster
The gop-e is just as complicit as the dims.
They may not have voted for the original bill but when they had control of the gubmint they did nothing to repeal it. Heck, they even voted to keep funding it.
At the last minute, is Senator John McCain, who lied about his intentions for years, who voted it down.
One man, one traitor, one RINO, who kept the Republicans from repealing Obamacare.
McCain hated Trump. That is the excuse his supporters give for his treasonous vote. He died shortly after.
Obummercare was dead when the court ruled that they cannot force someone to buy insurance if they don’t want to. All that happened then is that the people who need it buy it and use it, costing the program 100 or 200 times the amounts that they pay in to use it. ONLY the government propping it up with stolen taxpayer dollars has kept it going up to this point. Case in point, a retired guy I know collects SS and a union pension. He ONLY buys the insurance when he need something. So far, he has had 2 knees and a hip replaced. Hundreds of thousands of dollars worth and all he paid was the Obummer fees for a few years and a little out of pocket, and then he canceled it. The US taxpayers paid for his health care, and being a democrat voter, he thinks it all worked out just fine.
The other problem is that all the doctors and the insurance companies colluded so that all the doctors want to be paid in hundreds of thousands of dollars instead of sides of beef.
No one has been more critical of the PPACA (Obamacare) than have been.
But the PPACA was one of the few possible responses to the impending collapse of the existing system at the time it was adopted. The idea that Obamacare "broke" a well-functioning, healthy system is ridiculous.
In the first years of Medicare (1965-1972), my grandfather was hospitalized for 23 days with the heart attack that claimed his life. My grandma slept in his room on a cot, a room with a view of the lake he loved so much, and at the end, she got a bill for $18.
It is Medicare's original promise to pay, at first without limit, for any beneficial or potentially beneficial things to relieve illness or extend life for the >65 population that has destroyed the system.
Since at least 1972, when <65 kidney dialysis was added to Medicare by the Nixon admnistration, almost wthout debate, and certainly since fixed-price hospital admissions (DRGs) and free ER care (EMTALA) were added in the 1980s by the Reagan administration, the entire enterprise has been floating on cooked books, unsustainable debt, legions of dual MBA/MHA graduates wth new innovations, and finally to the widespread corruption of legal kickbacks and perverse incentives that came with Obamacare.
There may be a few more steps (100 year loans for medical debt, anyone?) before the end, but the end is coming, and the only struggle between the two parties (as it is with everything in Congress today) over this is who gets the blame for the terrible situation they have both created over the failure to choose nationalization or a free market.
In 1965, Congress chose "both", and now the bill is due.
Hopes are high with Trump sounding the charge—with more cooperative leadership in both houses of congress—some form of direct payments or HSAs, or both will result.
Ridiculously high price increases which Donks own 💯% will expose Obamacare such that even some Donks will support wholesale change.
It can’t go on without subsidies and that ain’t happening. It’s filled with fraud up the arse. Insurance companies profits are absurd because of those subsidies, at the expense of hospitals and patients. I curse my late Senator McCain for his thumbs down.
Similarly, Brooke Rollins at AG is requiring all SNAP recipients to re-register which will expose massive double dipping.
Dare we wish that Obamacare is Dead !
Including Chief Justice Roberts.
Until he wasn't and at the last minute re-wrote his decision in favor of Obamacare, calling it a "tax" and therefore legitimate.
"Justice John Roberts was initially aligned with the conservative justices in the 2012 Supreme Court case ..and voted to strike down the individual mandate at the heart of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare).
After the oral arguments in March 2012, Roberts joined the four other conservative justices in a preliminary vote to invalidate the mandate, believing it exceeded Congress’s power under the Commerce Clause.
Roberts later changed his position during the Court’s deliberations in May 2012.
Instead of striking down the law, he concluded that the individual mandate could be constitutionally justified as an exercise of Congress’s taxing power.
This shift allowed the Court to uphold the core of Obamacare by a 5–4 vote, with Roberts joining the four liberal justices."
He must have gotten a midnight phone call that "changed his mind..."
quotes:
“We should not make the mistakes of the past that has led to Obamacare’s collapse, including in my home state of Arizona where premiums are skyrocketing and healthcare providers are fleeing the marketplace,” McCain said in a statement.
McCain released the following statement early Friday morning:
“From the beginning, I have believed that Obamacare should be repealed and replaced with a solution that increases competition, lowers costs, and improves care for the American people. The so-called “skinny repeal” amendment the Senate voted on today would not accomplish those goals. While the amendment would have repealed some of Obamacare’s most burdensome regulations, it offered no replacement to actually reform our health care system and deliver affordable, quality health care to our citizens.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/john-mccain-heres-why-voted-080525553.html
Roberts must have understood how close what existed was to collapse before he changed his vote.
Mcstain’s name keeps popping up in these discussions.....mr “high road”.
The Obamacare repeal failed because premiums are more expensive in Alaska and other places such as Arizona (drug treatment) and the fixed amount subsidies didn’t take that into account.
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