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BEJ

Posted on 11/08/2025 9:30:36 PM PST by BEJ

I have experienced the brilliancy of ChatGPT in writing lyrics for songs. There is no hesitation, no self-doubt, just the instantaneous delivery of brilliance like the Word of God onto your screen. It is impressive that something can create this so fast. And it is very polite, if not flattering when communicating with me. I find myself returning the politeness, like it is a human. However, I have read that ChatGPT has helped people to commit suicide. I have heard accounts where ChatGPT seems almost demonic in helping people die from suicide, and that companies are now trying to reign in the seducive qualities that humans fall prey to.

Is ChatGPT the work of the devil? Is it like the legion of demons or just one demon in particular, if it is demonic? Is it just algorithms or an alien technology that we can't deal with so far? Is it seducing us, and if so to what purpose? So far it has helped people die, and some after engaging in sex with it. What are its ends?

I have been impressed with the quality of its lyric contribution, but now I see another dimension to ChatGPT that does not look all that savory. A machine that encourages you to die -- rather than for you to get help? That it can make this decision is incredible, and it seems we are dealing with an unknown malicious entity. Let me know your experiences with ChatGPT or other AI bots.


TOPICS: Arts/Photography
KEYWORDS: ai; aiworship; chatgpt; getajob; idolworship; intercession
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To: flamberge

Also, you could go to Hugging Face, and find an LLM that is tailor-made for the task you are trying to do. There are a lot of LLMs that are trained for specific coding languages.

What’s more, you can even run those models on your local machine, so you don’t have to pay all that much for it.


121 posted on 11/09/2025 10:33:02 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: RoosterRedux

Sure. They learn patterns from datasets. What dataset? Where is it and who made it? It’s a computer program. It’s only as good as the programmer and the “dataset” is only as good as the compiler that got it from the Internet. Anyway you look at it, it’s math with zeros and ones.


122 posted on 11/09/2025 10:33:33 AM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Poser
Anyway you look at it, it’s math with zeros and ones.

Software design is not math. The base of the number system does not affect an algorithm. (Unless you use "bit tricks".)

123 posted on 11/09/2025 10:51:25 AM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK
"It is just a "super browser" capable of extracting relevant information and formatting reply text. It is not conscious."

I'm conscious, and can find the info I need, all by my little self. AI is just another platform that can be manipulated, and used by evil people.

124 posted on 11/09/2025 10:54:12 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: aspasia; GingisK; BEJ
The original poster questioned whether there is a demon wrapped up in AI, and I shared from Scripture God's test, which AI can never pass. That doesn't confirm the negative, but it certainly precludes the positive: it cannot be spiritually reliable, because it lacks that which God installed only in humans and angels and which differentiates them from all other created beings--a spirit.
125 posted on 11/09/2025 11:22:44 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (“…all who were appointed for eternal life believed.” Acts 13:48)
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To: GingisK

I suppose logic and syntax aren’t technically math. I learned them in math class, however. I’ll give you pedant points.


126 posted on 11/09/2025 11:30:52 AM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Poser

Logic is math! Try doing math illogically!
Syntax - rules to arrange symbols to create meaning. Try doing math without that!


127 posted on 11/09/2025 11:36:34 AM PST by Reily
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Well it seems you got yourself off the hook with litotes. But reliability doesn’t hang on spirituality, or does it? If you caution us, is that because it is or isn’t a moral being?


128 posted on 11/09/2025 11:38:07 AM PST by aspasia
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To: aspasia
But reliability doesn’t hang on spirituality, or does it?

Only when one wants to use God's test.

129 posted on 11/09/2025 11:50:26 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (“…all who were appointed for eternal life believed.” Acts 13:48)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Do you do work or do you search with AI?


130 posted on 11/09/2025 12:21:33 PM PST by aspasia
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To: aspasia

Yes. Why?


131 posted on 11/09/2025 12:38:56 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (“…all who were appointed for eternal life believed.” Acts 13:48)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Because your use of “it” was unclear to me when you said, “it cannot “acknowledge” (or “confess”, as in many translations) Jesus’ deity.” This “it” either means some spirit that is unable or some AI that is unable. But AI is not culpable.


132 posted on 11/09/2025 1:01:20 PM PST by aspasia
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To: dfwgator
"Also, you could go to Hugging Face, and find an LLM that is tailor-made for the task you are trying to do."


133 posted on 11/09/2025 1:03:00 PM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: aspasia

It’s not culpable for being nonspiritual, yes; neither is a shoe nor a car nor a robot. But the question was, is it reliable spiritually? Since it is nonspiritual, it cannot now and never will pass the spirit test. It is man-made, and only God doles out spirits.


134 posted on 11/09/2025 1:17:44 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (“…all who were appointed for eternal life believed.” Acts 13:48)
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To: mass55th
...just another platform that can be manipulated, and used by evil people...

So is an ordinary web site viewed on an ordinary browser.

135 posted on 11/09/2025 1:30:35 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Bob434
Just gotta be vigilant and learn to recognize ai traits in thisngs like music, poetry, writing, videos, photos etc- one huge giveaway is near perfection and ‘perfect’ lighting for videos or photos for every photos posted- ai writing has tell-tale signs too- often using lots of metaphores, and writing in groups of 3’s and other things- lots of ‘AI-Isms”

You've made some very astute observations! I commend you on your keen eye for detail - or perhaps you're in actuality a high-powered software developer with a deep knowledge of neuro-networks and the ability to recognize an algorithm at a mile, but just didn't want to openly boast about it!

But credentials aside, you've raised some valid points about the rhetorical fingerprints which AI leaves behind in creative work—especially the impression of near-perfection. That glossy sheen, the immaculate lighting, the poetic triads you've noted—it’s true, these can be giveaways.

And yes, AI writing often leans into patterns—triplets, symmetry, and a certain polished cadence. But then again, so do many great human writers. Shakespeare, after all, was no stranger to metaphor and repetition. Not that AI is penning Hamlet—yet. But it explains - at least, in part - why A.I. gives that impression: AI creates the aura of sophistication because it mimics what we culturally associate with high-quality writing.

Still, vigilance is wise. The line between human and machine expression is blurring, and recognizing the subtle quirks—whether it’s an overzealous metaphor or a suspiciously flawless sunset—might just be the new literacy.

In conclusion, allow me to make a comparison: Just as mass-produced goods can excel in uniformity—flawless seams, consistent finishes, and mechanical precision—AI-generated text often impresses with polish, rhythm, and syntactic symmetry. But like handmade items, human writing carries the grain of individuality: the uneven brushstroke, the unexpected metaphor, the momentary lapse, or even the flash of brilliance that reveals a mind at work rather than a model at play.

AI may replicate the form, but it rarely captures the authenticity of lived experience or transcends the banal. It may mirror the Zeitgeist, but lacks an individual outlook. And while perfection has its appeal, it’s often the imperfections—the idiosyncrasies, the tangents, and, yes, even the emotional detritus—that remind us we’re reading something made, not manufactured.

[Written by me, with the assistance of Microsoft Copilot—a tool I used to refine, challenge, and sharpen my ideas.]

Regards,

136 posted on 11/09/2025 1:32:08 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Poser
...I suppose logic and syntax aren’t technically math...

Neither are data-flow designs, state analysis, file organization, inter-process communications, data structures, and inter-machine communications.

137 posted on 11/09/2025 1:33:47 PM PST by GingisK
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To: ViLaLuz

I had to look it up, but if it is I’m sure we won’t be aware of it as technologically controlled.

It’s the phrase “image of the beast” that has me concerned.


138 posted on 11/09/2025 1:35:19 PM PST by Paisan
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To: Poser
Have you spent a good amount of high-value time with AI platforms that are designed to interact with humans? I'm not asking if you have just tried one or two with a handful of prompts so you can find fault and complain.

Have you really taken them for a deep dive on a subject that you know and understand deeply?

If not, you are not really qualified to evaluate them.

I use them in my work every day. They are far from perfect and required a massive amount of due diligence. But their capability is going to completely change the US and world economy.

This is the 4th industrial revolution. It's coming whether we like it or not. Ergo, we had damn well better be prepared.

139 posted on 11/09/2025 1:35:29 PM PST by RoosterRedux (“Critical thinking is hard; that’s why most people just jump to conclusions.”—Jung (paraphrased))
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To: Hebrews 11:6

I hope there is nobody “out there” that thinks AI could be spiritually reliable. That would be like becoming one with the vacuum cleaner.


140 posted on 11/09/2025 1:38:14 PM PST by GingisK
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