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‘American Dream stolen’: Trump administration ad singles out India over H-1B visa ‘abuse’
American Bazaar ^ | 10/31/2025 | Shubhangi Chowdhury

Posted on 11/01/2025 9:01:58 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: grey_whiskers

Generally speaking, Stack simply is a victim of incompetence of the community at large.


101 posted on 11/01/2025 6:11:58 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: grey_whiskers

AI is already showing it is succumbing to the same incompetence issues. GIGO


102 posted on 11/01/2025 6:12:58 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Lazamataz
I haven't tried claude or copilot yet, so I cannot speak to those.

I can't speak to claude, never used it. CoPilot though, I've used and it has its own limitations.

When you enable ChatGPT with CoPilot, it becomes a self-affirming mess that leverages its own result sets to validate ... its own result sets.

Look at Grok. It has the ability to generate fairly decent code for moderate tasks and it does a decent job at dissecting code and fixing it.

It's limited to copying and pasting code into its chat window to do that however it does a better job than any other AI I've found thus far.

YMMV of course. You're deeper into app stuff than I've been in quite some time.

103 posted on 11/01/2025 10:45:18 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: CodeToad; Lazamataz
Right on. AI cannot *think*, meaning take in facts and create a solution. It can only take in data and reguritate it.

A different way of saying what I said to Laz in another thread on this same topic some time ago, and yes. 100% right. Not many people truly understand the point you just made. You've done your homework. Most that try (and fail) to talk intelligently on this topic haven't.

I'll also add what I've said for at least three, perhaps four years on this topic:

The future does not belong to AI, or even those who know how to use it.

The future belongs to those who control the data that AI uses to perform its work.

That's not going to be Laz, you or I, and I don't say that to be an alarmist or conspiracy theorist. It's just how I see it. Laz 'n I have had many discussions off FR on AI, including this very point. AI is subject to GIGO as much as anything else and I think many people miss that point. Separately, poisoning AI isn't the most difficult thing in the world either and I'm sure you know that too.

I just thank God I'm at the very tail-end of my career. My entire 42+ year long career has been in Information Technology. I started at the bottom of the ladder and steadily worked my way up across multiple specialties and lines of business and I'm tired.

When I retire (for the second time in April of next year), I'm going Galt. I don't ever want to see technology again. So much so, the only "technology" I'll own will be a flip-phone with zero "smartphone" capabilities. Sure, it'll make some of life harder and that's ok. I'm old enough to remember when none of this nonsense that track, monitor and data mine the hell out of everything we do existed in the first place, and we all did just fine.

Ask Laz. He's known me since 1998, knows my story, and he knows I'm not kidding about dumping technology and going back to living more simply.

104 posted on 11/01/2025 11:41:05 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: kiryandil

Shut up


105 posted on 11/02/2025 12:37:45 AM PDT by vmpolesov
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To: vmpolesov; simpleton

Sounds like you mad, AI bro.


106 posted on 11/02/2025 12:55:52 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Owen

NEW: a reader shares pictures of Delta Airlines staffers at their headquarters in Atlanta. Almost entirely Indians.

He writes that 98 percent of Delta's IT department is Indian, their CTO is Indian, and their VP of IT is also Indian.

Given that Indians have been implicated in… pic.twitter.com/pjmWvCeLvR— Matt Forney (@realmattforney) November 1, 2025


107 posted on 11/02/2025 4:07:05 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Owen
This does NOT read like there are American Dreams being stolen. Now, just recently, I have definitely heard of Computer Science types unable to find jobs, but that is recent and not extending over the 10 years of the above

Stop. Lying. Troll-boi.

(Vanity) A Falling Tide Grounds All Boats

posted 19 years ago.

(Vanity) The Other Face of India, or, The Social Climber

posted 18 years ago>

108 posted on 11/02/2025 4:14:30 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: usconservative
From Intapundit's open thread last night: "Grok just informed me that, as of 11/02/2025, the World Series is tied 1-1 after the Yankees beat the Dodgers 4-2 on 10/30/2025.

When I insisted that the Dodgers just won their second Series in a row by beating the Toronto Blue Jays in a 7 game series, Grok told me I was wrong.

When I finally pointed Grok to mlb.com, it admitted that I was right and that there must have been a brain glitch.

I guess I won’t be depending on AI for anything important in the near future at least."

109 posted on 11/02/2025 4:42:36 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
LOL! Wow, that's funny!!

Also validates GIGO (Garbage In/Garbage Out) ... Grok had garbage data resources for your question as you discovered until you pointed it to valid data.

Also funny that you had to "argue" with it like that. I've not experienced that with Grok yet though most of what I use it for is data analysis and I give it the data to analyze.

I've read similar stories like yours though, so I believe you it happened.

110 posted on 11/02/2025 4:58:46 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

It wasn’t me, but another poster.

But in light of SO many companies going “all in” on AI (on the wishful greed that they can replace all humans), I’m getting ready to short certain stocks or buy put options on them.


111 posted on 11/02/2025 5:10:26 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: usconservative

I, too, am at the tail end of my career. Maybe 3 years left, if that. I still like searching for restaurants and directions, but I think my tech use will diminish considerably after retirement.


112 posted on 11/02/2025 5:14:48 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad
Directions via Waze will be the #1 thing I miss. I was never good at reading maps, I'm going to have to start learning to do that again.

That is, if they still publish maps? LOL!!!

Of my group of friends, I'm the only one that's getting rid of their smartphone, computers, etc.. Everyone else thinks it's too hard to "go back" to what they used to know how to do before all this technology.

While I've zero data to backup my claim, I happen to believe that eliminating technology and reclaiming one's brainpower is going to be one of the keys to a longer, happier, more sustainable life. Socialization (human to human) interaction is key too.

113 posted on 11/02/2025 5:42:31 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I still by Rand McNally maps...just in case.


114 posted on 11/02/2025 5:52:01 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

Thank you! Going to go get a Rand McNally Atlas and detailed maps of Tennessee now.


115 posted on 11/02/2025 5:53:21 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

The DeLORME, a Garmin company now, detailed maps of each State is still produced. Great compliment to the Rand.


116 posted on 11/02/2025 5:55:37 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad
Before Waze & Smartphones became available, I used to have a dashboard Garmin GPS Navigator.

Is it "cheating" if I get one of those for directions?

Now I'm tempted ... I wouldn't have remembered I had one until you said "Garmin" ... LOL!

117 posted on 11/02/2025 6:01:15 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I have a “Smart” Garmin with lifetime updates, and I update via wifi prior to any long trip.

We use it along side Google Map directions and it has detected incidents and closures ahead before Google. Not always, but about 50% of the time.


118 posted on 11/02/2025 6:05:24 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: CodeToad
The DeLORME, a Garmin company now, detailed maps of each State is still produced. Great compliment to the Rand.

Thanks for that tip also. Nothing beats having physical copies of detailed maps when technology fails. All technology fails sooner or later.

119 posted on 11/02/2025 6:25:31 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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