[Carry_Okie]

Right, well in the Nazi era German Shepherds were prized for being more wolf-like: "German Shepherds were coveted as "germanische Urhunde," [German primordial dogs] being close to the wolf,

NAZI propaganda and acculturation are a far cry from serious dog research.

Uh, how does having Dutch Shepherds make you an expert on German Shepherds?

Unlike you, I don't claim to be. What I was pointing out is that I have been serious about shepherd dog breeds in general for a long time, having (unlike you) read von Stephanitz 30 years ago, but then if you knew about working dogs in general, you would have surmised that from what I posted. Back then, there were less than 200 DSDs in the entire US and most of those were in drug interdiction or black ops.

[Dr. Franklin]

NAZI propaganda and acculturation are a far cry from serious dog research.

So you are sure that the Nazis didn't recross German shepherds with wolves among their other science experiments?