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Cotton blocks Trump-backed effort to make daylight saving time permanent
Politico (Yeah, I know) ^ | October 29, 2025 | Benjamin Guggenheim

Posted on 10/29/2025 8:12:15 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Valpal1

Having daylight saving time IS aligning time to natural rhythms. It allows the day to start after sunrise.

If you think changing a clock twice a year is a burden, that’s the problem. It is nothing. You are saying you’d rather sit in the dark for an hour a day for 4 months than spend 30 seconds changing a clock. Sorry, that’s an amazing tradeoff.


101 posted on 10/29/2025 1:30:13 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Red Badger

Lets just move it a half hour and be done with it.


102 posted on 10/29/2025 2:02:08 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: untenured
Thank you for the ping.

This is one of the few things I disagree with President Trump on. I believe we need to change our clocks twice a year.

It is important to get the extra daylight at the end of the day during the warmer summer months. During the winter, who cares. Let it get dark early when there's snow and ice outside. I'll just curl up by the fire with a good book, a glass of scotch, and a dog by my side.

During the summer though, I want to be out on the back deck, sipping on a beer, a steak on the grill, and also a dog by my side.

103 posted on 10/29/2025 3:00:23 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: DugwayDuke

“Once upon a time, there was no standard time. Every town had it’s own ‘noon’ based upon when the sun was at it’s peak.
With the coming of the railroads, it became chaos. Can you imagine making a railroad schedule with every railroad station having it’s own version of time?
The railroad barons got together and created the current system of time zones.”

Railroads and trains enabled the industrial revolution. Not only did they create a new supply chain and extend trade to broad distances, they gave synchronized time.

Synchronized time allowed for synchronized labor => factory work => specialization of labor.

Most of us are out of synch with natural time and have become slaves to the clock.


104 posted on 10/29/2025 4:35:10 PM PDT by unlearner (See my about page for "God's Promises During Tribulation".)
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To: Red Badger

Go back to standard time; you know the way we have since time immemorial.


105 posted on 10/29/2025 4:37:08 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Red Badger; All

If making the change, make Standard Time permanent. Get the kids off to school in semi-daylight instead of darkness.


106 posted on 10/29/2025 4:43:43 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Drago

I read years ago that the reason we still have DST and even made it longer was because of Clorox Corporation.

They bought Kingsford Charcoal and wanted people to have more time outside to grill!

So they lobbied Congress [AKA bribed with campaign contributions] to not only keep DST but to expand it longer!...............


107 posted on 10/29/2025 5:00:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Everything is fine just the way it is.
We got to the moon on daylight saving time and won World War II.

We need the late evening light in the summer and the extra morning light in the winter.

Let everything be.


108 posted on 10/29/2025 5:21:56 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: omni-scientist

It sounds like Cotton (AR) wants to keep the times changing.
Scott (FL) does not.

FL doesn’t matter much - 14 hours of day in the summer, 10 in the winter. They could change to permanent Eastern time if they wanted to. The western panhandle could be permanent central time.

About 40 degrees north (say San Fran to Philly) you get a 15 hour day in the summer, 9 in the winter.

Do you want 6 am - 9 pm in the summer and 9 am to 6 pm in the winter, or how about 5 am -8 pm in the summer and then 8 am - 5 pm in the winter?

About 48 degrees north (roughly CONUS-Canada) you get a 16 hour day in the summer, 8 in the winter.

Ketchikan AK - 19.5 hour days in the summer; 4.5 hour days in the winter.

Point Barrow AK - up all day in summer; down all day in winter.


109 posted on 10/29/2025 7:01:43 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: delta7
"Man’s folly. Any time “ Man” and his “ science” (or reasoning) departs from God’s word and his creation, it always ends up one big Snafu."

My Socrates was a big SNAFU! Lost $700 billion of my clients' investments and got me eleven years in jail.

signed, Martin Armstrong

110 posted on 10/29/2025 8:16:31 PM PDT by TexasGator (1The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: omni-scientist

The northernmost point of Arizona is north of the northernmost point of Arkansas, but most of the population of Arizona is south of 34 degrees N.


111 posted on 10/30/2025 6:08:10 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Red Badger

changing the clocks is for the birds...er, even they don’t do it and we shouldn’t either.


112 posted on 10/30/2025 6:11:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: DugwayDuke
"There really isn’t a way to set time that all can agree to or that will make all happy."

That much is pretty obvious. But I think most of us can agree that changing clocks twice a year is an unnecessary disruption to the gradual seasonal changes in sunlight.

113 posted on 10/30/2025 7:12:57 AM PDT by omni-scientist
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To: omni-scientist

omni-scientist wrote: “That much is pretty obvious. But I think most of us can agree that changing clocks twice a year is an unnecessary disruption to the gradual seasonal changes in sunlight.”

I’m not at all sure that ‘most of us’ can agree on this.
- Those with school children prefer more daylight in the morning. They don’t want their children going to school in the dark.
- Others prefer having more daylight after they get off work.


114 posted on 10/30/2025 7:38:25 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Red Badger
Anyone who remembers 1974 knows that permanent DST is a nightmare!

Want to stop changing the clocks? How about year round Standard time???

I'm greatly disappointed in President Trump on this issue.

115 posted on 10/30/2025 7:52:15 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Living in Florida, it doesn’t matter which way we go, just pick one and stay with it!...............


116 posted on 10/30/2025 8:11:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: DugwayDuke
"- Those with school children prefer more daylight in the morning. They don’t want their children going to school in the dark."

I can understand that. But why wouldn't the school district shift the hours for attendance when there is more daylight? As far as working people who would like more daylight after work, that is an issue between them and their employer.

117 posted on 10/30/2025 8:40:14 AM PDT by omni-scientist
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To: omni-scientist

omni-scientist wrote: “I can understand that. But why wouldn’t the school district shift the hours for attendance when there is more daylight? As far as working people who would like more daylight after work, that is an issue between them and their employer.”

It’s not that simple as shifting the school hours. You would also have to shift the hours people work, daycare hours, etc.
The bottom line you either shift the clock or shift those things that are based upon the clock.


118 posted on 10/30/2025 8:57:41 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Red Badger

Alaska does do time changes, but winter nights and summer days are so long there that they are irrelevant.


119 posted on 10/30/2025 9:05:03 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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