Posted on 10/29/2025 8:12:15 AM PDT by Red Badger
Having daylight saving time IS aligning time to natural rhythms. It allows the day to start after sunrise.
If you think changing a clock twice a year is a burden, that’s the problem. It is nothing. You are saying you’d rather sit in the dark for an hour a day for 4 months than spend 30 seconds changing a clock. Sorry, that’s an amazing tradeoff.
Lets just move it a half hour and be done with it.
This is one of the few things I disagree with President Trump on. I believe we need to change our clocks twice a year.
It is important to get the extra daylight at the end of the day during the warmer summer months. During the winter, who cares. Let it get dark early when there's snow and ice outside. I'll just curl up by the fire with a good book, a glass of scotch, and a dog by my side.
During the summer though, I want to be out on the back deck, sipping on a beer, a steak on the grill, and also a dog by my side.
“Once upon a time, there was no standard time. Every town had it’s own ‘noon’ based upon when the sun was at it’s peak.
With the coming of the railroads, it became chaos. Can you imagine making a railroad schedule with every railroad station having it’s own version of time?
The railroad barons got together and created the current system of time zones.”
Railroads and trains enabled the industrial revolution. Not only did they create a new supply chain and extend trade to broad distances, they gave synchronized time.
Synchronized time allowed for synchronized labor => factory work => specialization of labor.
Most of us are out of synch with natural time and have become slaves to the clock.
Go back to standard time; you know the way we have since time immemorial.
If making the change, make Standard Time permanent. Get the kids off to school in semi-daylight instead of darkness.
I read years ago that the reason we still have DST and even made it longer was because of Clorox Corporation.
They bought Kingsford Charcoal and wanted people to have more time outside to grill!
So they lobbied Congress [AKA bribed with campaign contributions] to not only keep DST but to expand it longer!...............
Everything is fine just the way it is.
We got to the moon on daylight saving time and won World War II.
We need the late evening light in the summer and the extra morning light in the winter.
Let everything be.
It sounds like Cotton (AR) wants to keep the times changing.
Scott (FL) does not.
FL doesn’t matter much - 14 hours of day in the summer, 10 in the winter. They could change to permanent Eastern time if they wanted to. The western panhandle could be permanent central time.
About 40 degrees north (say San Fran to Philly) you get a 15 hour day in the summer, 9 in the winter.
Do you want 6 am - 9 pm in the summer and 9 am to 6 pm in the winter, or how about 5 am -8 pm in the summer and then 8 am - 5 pm in the winter?
About 48 degrees north (roughly CONUS-Canada) you get a 16 hour day in the summer, 8 in the winter.
Ketchikan AK - 19.5 hour days in the summer; 4.5 hour days in the winter.
Point Barrow AK - up all day in summer; down all day in winter.
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The northernmost point of Arizona is north of the northernmost point of Arkansas, but most of the population of Arizona is south of 34 degrees N.
changing the clocks is for the birds...er, even they don’t do it and we shouldn’t either.
That much is pretty obvious. But I think most of us can agree that changing clocks twice a year is an unnecessary disruption to the gradual seasonal changes in sunlight.
omni-scientist wrote: “That much is pretty obvious. But I think most of us can agree that changing clocks twice a year is an unnecessary disruption to the gradual seasonal changes in sunlight.”
I’m not at all sure that ‘most of us’ can agree on this.
- Those with school children prefer more daylight in the morning. They don’t want their children going to school in the dark.
- Others prefer having more daylight after they get off work.
Want to stop changing the clocks? How about year round Standard time???
I'm greatly disappointed in President Trump on this issue.
Living in Florida, it doesn’t matter which way we go, just pick one and stay with it!...............
I can understand that. But why wouldn't the school district shift the hours for attendance when there is more daylight? As far as working people who would like more daylight after work, that is an issue between them and their employer.
omni-scientist wrote: “I can understand that. But why wouldn’t the school district shift the hours for attendance when there is more daylight? As far as working people who would like more daylight after work, that is an issue between them and their employer.”
It’s not that simple as shifting the school hours. You would also have to shift the hours people work, daycare hours, etc.
The bottom line you either shift the clock or shift those things that are based upon the clock.
Alaska does do time changes, but winter nights and summer days are so long there that they are irrelevant.
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