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To: Red Badger

Might be a kernel of truth to the story, but in the history of the ETO, there was never a P-38 that could outmaneuver a Zero or Oscar… didn’t happen. The 38s ran up big scores with energy tactics, not maneuvering fights.

The internet is suddenly filled with these “one weird trick” and “Japanese we’re terrified of the 1911 pistol and here’s why” stories of WWII. They are morality fables about how one lowly soldier suddenly won the war and left the engineers in slack jawed amazement.

These fables were everywhere in the USSR.


28 posted on 10/29/2025 7:49:11 AM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: DesertRhino

The internet is suddenly filled with these “one weird trick” and “Japanese we’re terrified of the 1911 pistol and here’s why” stories of WWII.


That is a good observation. And they all have the same content with a different subject.

AI?


29 posted on 10/29/2025 7:52:13 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: DesertRhino

Might be a kernel of truth to the story, but in the history of the ETO, there was never a P-38 that could outmaneuver a Zero or Oscar… didn’t happen.


Never said it did, but implies it.

Better is still better. little things added up.


36 posted on 10/29/2025 8:08:50 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: DesertRhino

Might be a kernel of truth to the story,


Adding racing stripes to the hood of my car added at least 10 horse power when I was young.

If the pilots thought it made a difference, it did in their mind. Hawthorne effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect


40 posted on 10/29/2025 8:17:47 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: DesertRhino

If ETO stands for European Theater Operations, then I think no Japanese Zeros or Oscars would have been an issue...

Or perhaps I misunderstood what you mean by ETO.


68 posted on 10/29/2025 12:18:06 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (They don't kill you because you're a Nazi, they call you a Nazi so they can kill you.--CFW)
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