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To: Heartlander

I can believe this.
With each process, as they dig deeper into them, find it more and more complex and more mathematically impossible to accept it as natural processes.


2 posted on 10/15/2025 10:01:06 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Socialism's promises, like a Djinn's wishes to the greedy, lead to punishment when due. )
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To: Jonty30

Mathematically improbable (impossible, really) levels of complexity being discovered in the basic cell must be frying the brains of many a hardened atheist (aging) biologist.


11 posted on 10/15/2025 10:21:08 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Jonty30

I had quite an journey from believer to atheist and again a believer.

As a youth I was a believer as I was told there is a god by my elders and peers. It was just an accepted truth. Then I got my degree in geology and became schooled in evolution which I believed and still believe. Evolution contradicted my former religious beliefs thus I became an absolute atheist over time and peer influence. This was in the 60s.

The turning point was pharmacy school. Years studying the human body and its multiple systems that keep us alive defies imagination. We are designed with positive and negative feedback mechanism that keep us alive, homeostasis.
As a pharmacist we could help the body via our drugs. That was our job.
A million Einsteins could not design the human body nor all life on earth. Our liver makes Dow Chemical look like a childs chemistry set. Our kidneys are masterpiece of engineering. The eyes are another engineering marvel. All the many organ systems do not work independently. The send chemical messages and neuronal messages to each other to keep the body functioning properly. My thoughts became this can not be an accident but by plan. My atheism was waning. The turning point was physics and the “Big Bang” which did happen. Physicists have probable explanations for the universe from the big bang on. Not one physicist can tell you what was what the instant before the “Big Bang.” Not one!

There is only one explanation which is God Eternal. Oddly the word eternal defies explanation as humans can not understand anything without a beginning.

Note: The bible was written by man and I do believe it has errors. However, I do think the words of Jesus and his disciples are mostly recorded and translated correctly. One must remember it was mortal men that did the recording and translation.

As mentioned evolution fits entirely with my belief in God. He made the universe and guided it the way he saw fit. I thus believe in divine intervention and God. This can not be by accident.

My tagline tells you my history of education. There was not enough room to say “almost chemist.” The chemistry department does not recognize the many hours of pharmacy chemistry nor my course in Geo-Chemistry. If they did I would also have a chemistry degree. PS Geo-Chemistry was the hardest damn course I took in my life. It was basically thermodynamics plus chemistry at temperatures from room temperature to thousands of degrees and pressures at geologic depths down to the mantel. But I did love phase diagrams.


38 posted on 10/15/2025 9:11:31 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, MAGA)
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