Posted on 10/14/2025 2:05:24 AM PDT by RandFan
@RepThomasMassie
Trump asked dual citizen Miriam Adelson, a billionaire running nasty ads against me in Kentucky, “what do you love more, the United States or Israel?” She refused to answer him. He says that might mean she loves Israel more.
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I took it as a friendly joke. Everyone laughed.
“The State of Israel is NOT equivalent to the Nation of Israel and I do not believe that God requires us to venerate this temporal state.”
I agree with you, but countless posters here, many of the evangelical persuasion, disagree. They swear up and down that any and all Biblical references to “Israel” are fully applicable the present-day state of Israel, and our fealty and “blessings” are owed thereto. The logical outcome of that mentality is that the Israeli government is beyond criticism because whatever it does is, tautologically, blessed. Israel jsut appproved some new abortion pill? Blessed. Must be God’s will. Guess they we have to bless that. Israel recognizes same-sex marriages performed abroad? God blesses that too!
One of the great ironies is this situation is that this love affair is very one-way. A long time ago, I was talking about politics with a friend who happens to be Jewish. My friend was a conservative Republican. Now there are a lot of rich liberals, with many of America’s wealthiest zip codes being solidly left wing. But 30 years ago the phenomenon was less common. I asked him, “Why do so many Jews who are business-oriented and wealthy swing left politically despite their economic interests being more aligned with the GOP?” He answered thus: “The truth is that they fear and loathe the Christian right.” I asked why. He explained that he himself struggled with that mentality. He said that most American Jews think that the Christian right sees the U.S., at its core, as a Christian country, and will thus impose Christianity and Christian values on civic institutions wherever they’re allowed to do so. He said that he was raised to resist that. I thanked him for the explanation.
Again, AIPAC does not get Israeli funding.
It is funded by private American citizens.
“Again, AIPAC does not get Israeli funding.”
Well, you are certainly free to believe that...
But then, if liberals get the kind of power they want in America, they’re likely to turn against Israel along with the other Muslim countries that surround them.
Do you really think that it’s wrong...
Yes, I do believe reality.
Obama used the entire might and investigatory power of the federal government to prove your particular leftist fever dream and came up with nothing.
Again, AIPAC does not get Israeli funding.”
Well, you are certainly free to believe that...
There have been numerous lawsuits, investigations, and reporting efforts alleging that Israel funds AIPAC.
DOJ v. AZC back in 1962, which the DOJ lost
IRmep Petition in 2007 that resulted in a major DOJ investigation.
U.S. v. Franklin in 2009, dismissed
Various leftist/muslim efforts since 2018.
After all the investigations, bupkis. No Israeli funding.
All the efforts were lost, and the funding traced to Americans.
At some point, an allegation that “the Jews” are behind something becomes antisemitism when the claim is repeatedly disproven.
I’d say your denial of evidence in favor of a conspiracy theory has met the mark.
If the Mossad can embed all over Iran then the Mossad can funnel money to AIPAC. And since when has the DOJ and the political operatives in Washington uncovered anything corrupt?
Allegations of anti-semitism is just like the racism card that is thrown down when people abandon reason.
“...to prove your particular leftist fever dream...”
I have a posting history here and you won’t find the slightest leftist fever dream among them.
You must be an idiot.
Yet ... you are a “screecher”
will you also stop your “nonsense”?
“the world wonders”
this could be the most inappropriate comparison of all time
Posing that nonsensical hypothetical is like asking someone to compare the United States with God and asking which one is loved more.
“If the Mossad can embed all over Iran then the Mossad can funnel money to AIPAC.”
They’ve traced all the money. AIPAC is an FEC registered entity, and all the money is accounted for. Where’s your evidence? You have none, other than a mystical belief about the Mossad.
“And since when has the DOJ and the political operatives in Washington uncovered anything corrupt?”
You don’t think Obama would have made something up, if there was a crumb of proof there? The claim was literally disproven.
And it hasn’t just been Obama; it was multiple private litigants, with armies of well-paid lawyers and forensic investigators that found nothing.
Literally nothing to support your claim, except Jews are involved. You may not be an anti-Semite, but you sure share their beliefs.
“My views are balanced” — RandFan
now THAT is a funny post
“I have a posting history here and you won’t find the slightest leftist fever dream among them.”
Except this one.
“Literally nothing to support your claim, except Jews are involved. You may not be an anti-Semite, but you sure share their beliefs.”
Obviously, like you, I am not in any position to offer “proof” of what I think. But based on a bit of knowledge of how the players operate in Washington and Israel, and based on many statements of former elected officials who had nothing to profit from their warnings, I can put two and two together.
You mean you want me to believe that the Israelis are too righteous to engage in money laundering? If they can embed operatives all over Iran and put bombs in communications devices in their enemies hands, they can certainly defeat any investigation by Washington. Congress cant’t find any wrongdoing by Obama and Biden totally corrupt administrators.
And just now the extremely devious Bibi is not on Trump’s favorite list because he lied to induce the bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities.
“Except this one.”
Oh, so you have personal knowledge of all transactions by the Israeli government for the past 75 years and you know beyond a shadow of a doublt that the Israelis are as pure as the driven snow in all their actions.
Your lord god Bibi got caught lying about Iranian nuclear capabilites to induce Trump to bomb them and so now Bibi and Trump are on the outs.
“extremely devious Bibi is not on Trump’s favorite list because he lied to induce the bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities.”
Yeah, the bombing Trump excitedly recounted at the Knesset where he joked and spoke fondly of Bibi yesterday. He was super mad. So mad, he demanded Bibi get a pardon for unrelated claims because Bibi did such a good job.
So mad he said the peace deal was only possible because the threat of Iran’s nuke was removed.
That’s sarcasm, btw.
You do know that the purported disagreement (which was about how close Iran was to the bomb) has been disclosed as intentional misdirection (prior to the bombing) to lull Iran into a false sense of security, right? Or is your source for the “lie” still NPR and Al-Jazeera who ran with the fake story they were fed about Trump being “mad”.
We get it; you’re convinced Jews are sooooper sneaky bastards. Almost magical. Can they turn into bats? I heard that, too.
But which do you love MORE?
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