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To: SunkenCiv

This character uses papers out of order - cites a September paper, followed by an August paper.

The papers themselves amount to contortions to keep the object firmly within the orthodoxy, despite citing reasons to the contrary immediately afterward. In sum, they cite currently known facts, followed by explanations that are gobbledygook.

The repeated use of the word ‘comet’ by the guy predisposes the listener to walk away with the impression there is really nothing to see or learn from the object, even though it presents un-comet-like anomalous behavior. Mass loss: despite losing between 600,000 to 6,000,000 tons of material out-gassed since first observed in May, there has been not the slightest deviation from its course and speed, as would be expected as observed in all comets.

One thing, among many, that stood out is when the scientists’ papers tried to calculate the object’s path and speed. The paper cited says the object had 61 significant encounters with stars, yet had no change in speed or course. [ How do they know that? They are scientists, so do not ask. ] They go on to say there were no significant encounters in the last 10 million years based on their model, Gaia DR3 [ not explained ], that can account for 3I’s present trajectory or origin. But despite the disclaimer, the object is consistent with the “thin disk population,” [ of which we have only observed 3 possible examples ], and cannot account for its “large peculiar velocity”.

Later, the same paper cites Oumuamua’s anomalous course and sped change after rounding the Sun, putting it down to gaseous emissions, even though no such emission was observed and the tumbling rate remained unchanged.

Avi Loeb’s paper states that the paper is largely a pedagogical exercise, testing a hypothetical model, makes no claim that it is an alien spacecraft, and to which the authors do not necessarily ascribe. Despite the disclaimer by Loeb, the guy takes the paper as fact, rather than the fun hypothesis Avi states it is.

The guy then goes on to attempts to discredit Loeb by using another paper that speculates on how a real alien craft would present itself [ as if an alien would be more like us technologically { and not actually all that alien }. But the thing about aliens is they are alien. So how would the scientists really know? ]

In closing, the guy states that Loeb’s speculative paper is a ‘claim’ [ which it is not ]. See how that works? Pay no attention, do not even try to learn anything, the scientific community has all the answers you need to know, go back to sleep, ignore it, everything is just a coincidence, and therefore, easily explainable.

540 days under observation
24 hours 12,960hr
60 min hr 776,000 min
60 sec min 46,656,000 sec

Mass loss:
12 kg/s x 46,656,000[time/s] = 559,987,200 kg total lost over 540 days/observed = 617,250 tons
120 kg/s x 46,656,000[time/s] = 5,599,872,000 kg total lost over 540 days/observed= 6,172,500 tons


16 posted on 10/12/2025 6:56:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Drink the Koolaid.


17 posted on 10/12/2025 7:17:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpers are Republicans the same way Liz Cheney is a Republican.)
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