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To: ProgressingAmerica; dayglored; fireman15

Aruh? If this is better than Wine, might be my long term way to go.

Currently on W10 LTSC IoT, but eventually even that won’t be an option.

I do run CAD, and PLC programming packages (and a lot of VMs). I’ll have to load this up and give it a test drive.


50 posted on 10/08/2025 1:27:34 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking
Currently on W10 LTSC IoT, but eventually even that won't be an option.

After your tip on this months ago I converted all of our Windows 10 machines to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC. I did it for friends and family as well 20 computers in all. $22 and a couple of hours of messing around to do it properly to keep your current system exactly the way that it has been for years, except that it will still be getting Security Updates until 2032.

The funny thing is that since it is based on Windows 10 21H2 instead of 22H2... the problematic updates that were likely designed to help convince people migrate to Windows 11, were either not sent to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC or they did not have the same negative consequences.

I admit to being a hardware hoarder, so I already have several Windows 11 machines. I have set up a small home lab with computers setup for various purposes. Windows 11 Pro has some irritating “features” but for the most part it provides a stable platform for virtual machines and running docker desktop especially in Windows Subsystem for Linux along with all the other reasons that Windows is the most popular OS in the world.

My new AI enhanced mini-PC arrived today. It came with an Oculink port to add a powerful GPU. It also came with Windows 11 Pro but and is capable of running Flight Simulator 2024 suprisingly well, but I will likely be using it mostly as a local AI server to run LLMs (Artificial Intelligence Large Language Models) This likely is the next big type of category of “killer apps”

I have already spent a considerable amount of money on AI server time to create music, images, and videos. These are also incredibly useful AI services for restoring old photos and working on many other tedious tasks. Such as helping to set up other servers or stitching together dozens of photos taken by a drone running a mapping mission.

Hopefully this latest machine will help me to save a little money on these services in the future. My guess is that by the time Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC reaches its End of Life event in 2032 they will mostly be so much less capable than the current machines at that time that it probably will not be worth it to keep coaxing them along other than for nostalgic purposes. I imaged and verifying what was on the NVME that came with it and then I put it back together and got Windows 11 Pro up and running so I could save the license before moving on to making this little tiger into a dual boot machine. I also installed and tested Microsoft 2024 with it and was very suprised with how well it actually worked with no discreet GPU. I will probably install Ubuntu Server so that I can get Ollama running on it and serving other computers AI LLM models to other computers in the network. This is a hobby for me and not as complicated as it may sound.

61 posted on 10/08/2025 10:51:58 PM PDT by fireman15
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