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CONSUMER WARNING - I just had money taken out of my bank account from the State Of California and I have no idea why.
self ^ | 10/5/2025 | Self

Posted on 10/05/2025 3:57:32 AM PDT by know.your.why

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To: PAR35; Strident; ClearCase_guy

From a bank customer’s perspective, yes, our deposits into a back from our perspective are assets, and liabilities to the bank. However, that’s the outermost layer of the onion when it comes to “money”.

Deeper into the system, consider that the Central Banks create fiat money and loan it to governments/us at interest. From this perspective, a dollar is a unit of debt. A dollar is NOT money, at least not Constitutional money. A dollar is a derivative of money, not money itself.

That makes bail-ins possible, where the bank “steals” our deposits, legally.


81 posted on 10/05/2025 6:37:00 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: know.your.why; Leaning Right; MV=PY
Good info from Leaning Right (reply 36) and from MV=PY (reply 37).

Assuming that you do not yet have one, I suggest, that you promptly get a new USPS PO Box and use that for all accounting, financial, insurance contact info. And to the extent possible, for any government matters that allow mailing to a PO Box (example: reminders for vehicle registration renewal).

Also, never remain logged in to any website. Use an Internet browser's Private Browsing / Private Windows to the extent possible. Set your Internet browsers to clear all (and for all time) cache, cookies, and history when Exiting / Quitting the browser.

Never use a free e-mail account such as Google's or Yahoo's.

Change all online accounts' username-and-complex-password combinations. Using a unique username-and-complex-password combination for each website. And, never use a username that has any connection to your history and who you are.

And next week, change credit card numbers - the new card(s) to be mailed to your new USPS PO Box.

Remove any images / likeness of you, from social media websites. (Make life difficult for bad people and "AI".)

82 posted on 10/05/2025 6:40:22 AM PDT by wasmv80
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To: wasmv80; know.your.why
Those are good tips, but I doubt he has an identity theft problem. My guess is the CA taxing authority has a cross eyed or incompetent employee.

I had my first run in with the IRS for underpayment of taxes this year. I filed a rather simple 1040SR paper form. The person that processed my form botched the additional $2K standard deduction for seniors. I figured out the error in a few minutes, but it took me half a day of being put on hold and dropped connections before I could make my case to a live body. Even though your blood is boiling, you have to butter up the person on the other end of the phone line if you want a resolution.

83 posted on 10/05/2025 7:21:22 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: dpetty121263; know.your.why
Well deserved for living there...

That's uncalled for.

84 posted on 10/05/2025 7:24:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I figure if Charlie Kirk can die for free speech, I can be mildly inconvenienced.)
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To: know.your.why

Come back when you have some facts to report.
Do your own research.


85 posted on 10/05/2025 7:34:49 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: know.your.why

I vaguely remember a warning about this a couple of years ago.
Don’t remember the details though.


86 posted on 10/05/2025 7:43:19 AM PDT by Bikkuri (We are all Charlie now. I am Charlie!)
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To: know.your.why

BTW, would a credit union have been safer?
(I have only used credit unions since 1988, and refuse to use banks.)


87 posted on 10/05/2025 7:44:53 AM PDT by Bikkuri (We are all Charlie now. I am Charlie!)
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To: know.your.why

You might hire a lawyer and get your money back. Trouble is, you may pay the lawyer $10,000 to recover your 37 cents.


88 posted on 10/05/2025 7:47:29 AM PDT by libertylover (The HBM (Has Been Media) is almost all AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: know.your.why
Can't say Newscum did not issue a warning ....."We are going to take things away from you, whether you like it or not"

Direct quote from about a decade ago.....

89 posted on 10/05/2025 7:52:34 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (Pray for President Trump)
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To: know.your.why
How did you know it was the state? ---Because the withdrawal is a Cali number: LEGAL ORDER DEBIT - CONTACT FRANCHISE TAX BOARD (916) 845-4064

What did the FTB say when you called that phone number?

When I search for that phone number, it leads me to the following web page: Help with court-ordered debt (COD)

It sounds like someone has been granted a judgement against you and the court is collecting through your bank account.

90 posted on 10/05/2025 8:02:20 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: know.your.why

You likely owe state income tax that is unpaid.


91 posted on 10/05/2025 8:10:56 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: C210N

THEY DO NOT “OWN THE MONEY”.

THEY HAVE BEEN LICENSED TO “HOLD YOUR MONEY FOR LEGAL TRANSACTIONS”


92 posted on 10/05/2025 8:22:00 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Leaning Right

THAT ‘EXIT TAX” WAS SHOT DOWN....BUT CALIF WILL TRY ALMOST ANYTHING


93 posted on 10/05/2025 8:27:43 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Leaning Right

CALIF LOST THAT BATTLE YEARS AGO:

“TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION”

===WERE LIVING IN ANOTHER STATE & COULD NOT VOTE ON CALIF ISSUES-——

THEY WERE PARTICULARLY TARGETING PERSONS WHO HAD CALIF PENSIONS SUCH AS POLICE & FIRE FIGHTERS.

FRIEND WHO WAS A FIRE FIGHTER WAS PART OF THE LAWSUIT. IIRC-—AROUND EARLY 90’s.


94 posted on 10/05/2025 8:37:59 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: ridesthemiles

> THAT ‘EXIT TAX” WAS SHOT DOWN.... <

Yes, I believe it was. But as you said, California will try almost anything. One thing they’re doing now is assuming that you still live in CA even if you moved out.

And since you still live in CA (according to them), you owe CA taxes.

Please see my post #36.


95 posted on 10/05/2025 8:42:16 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: know.your.why
I moved to AZ in March 1996 after living in California for about 35 yrs. Hubby was working as a new home salesman for an independent builder but that job dried up when he sold all the homes, which is one reason we moved.

About 10 yrs ago the FTB tried to come after us, saying since we hadn’t filed a state tax return for 1996, they went ahead & did it for us. They claimed we owed them $5000 even tho we made next to nothing in California in 1996 & got money back from the federal earned income deduction that yr. I figured either they were mistaken or just fishing so I ignored it. They tried again a few yrs later but I never replied & they went away.

Unfortunately in your case, they already took the money. Now they need to tell you why.

96 posted on 10/05/2025 8:43:31 AM PDT by Prince of Space (I hate the media!)
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To: All

They need the money so they can change the sign from

HOLLYWOOD

to HELLYESWEED


97 posted on 10/05/2025 8:43:45 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (The scoffers will say where is the promise of His coming? Turn on your damn TV)
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To: PAR35

APPLIES TO FAILURE OF THE BANK


98 posted on 10/05/2025 9:08:33 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Bikkuri

MOST REPORT THAT CREDIT UNIONS ARE MUCH SAFER & FAR FRIENDLIER


99 posted on 10/05/2025 9:17:21 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: know.your.why

This reminds of of El Rushbo saying that NY continued to take $$ from him, via taxes, decades after he had moved away from NY.

Do you still own property in CA?

Sorry this has happened to you.

Did they say what type of fee? Good luck.


100 posted on 10/05/2025 9:19:35 AM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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