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GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned
October 1, 2025 | GROK AI

Posted on 10/01/2025 3:34:25 PM PDT by ransomnote

President Trump said the US no longer funds the Ukraine war. He said we now sell weapons to NATO, and NATO can do whatever it wants with them. The MSM and NATO vigorously describe this as Trump's continued support for the Ukraine war.

I asked GROK AI specific questions about what kind of aid we are giving in terms of military, budgetary and humanitarian/economic support. Grok says there have been no new appropriations by Congress in 2025; any US funds being spent now (e.g., training Ukrainian troops) were from prior appropriations (Biden). There is still tens of billions in Biden era appropriations remaining (unspent) for military and humanitarian spending.

At the end of Grok's responses, I tagged on questions about refugees and Ukraine's employment/unemployment levels.

Overview

Yes, the United States is still providing support to Ukraine in its ongoing conflict with Russia as of October 1, 2025, but the nature of this support has evolved significantly under the Trump administration. Direct U.S. taxpayer-funded military aid has been largely paused since early 2025, with no new congressional appropriations sought. Instead, the U.S. is facilitating weapons transfers through a new NATO-funded mechanism, where European allies cover the costs for U.S.-origin arms. This shift aligns with President Trump's emphasis on peace negotiations and reducing U.S. financial burdens, while still enabling arms flow to Ukraine. Total U.S. commitments since Russia's 2022 invasion exceed $130 billion, though disbursements are ongoing from prior funds.

Key Changes in U.S. Policy (2025)

Breakdown of U.S. Aid Totals (as of June/July 2025)

CategoryAllocated/Committed ($ billions)Disbursed/Spent ($ billions)Notes
Military66.9 (since 2022)~29 (undelivered from prior commitments)Includes weapons from U.S. stocks; no new U.S.-funded packages in 2025.
Total U.S. Aid (all types)130.6 (Jan 2022–Jun 2025)83.4Kiel Institute data; includes humanitarian/economic. Broader Operation Atlantic Resolve: $184.8 appropriated (through Mar 2025).
European ComparisonN/A165.7 (collective)EU + members outpace U.S. in total volume; leads in industry-procured arms.
 
  • Economic/Humanitarian: Ongoing disbursements from pre-2025 funds support Ukraine's budget and reconstruction (e.g., $37.8 billion via Economic Support Fund). A U.S.-Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund was established in April 2025, using immobilized Russian assets for long-term recovery—no direct war funding.
  • Impact on Ukraine: U.S.-origin weapons remain ~20% of Ukraine's lethal equipment, critical for defense. A full cutoff would strain Kyiv, but current hybrid model sustains supplies without new U.S. outlays.

Broader Context and Outlook

This approach has drawn criticism from both sides: Progressives decry past spending as excessive, while Ukraine advocates worry about reliability amid U.S. domestic debates (e.g., potential government shutdown risks tying into funding disputes). Peace talks continue, with Trump pushing a Putin-Zelenskyy summit. If negotiations stall, Trump has threatened tariffs on Russia, potentially increasing U.S. leverage without direct funding.

For real-time updates, sources like the Kiel Institute's Ukraine Support Tracker or State Department fact sheets provide the latest figures.

 
Is the US providing new funding for humanitarian aid and economic aid?

As of October 1, 2025, the United States is not providing new funding for humanitarian or economic aid to Ukraine through direct congressional appropriations. However, the U.S. continues to disburse previously allocated funds and supports indirect mechanisms to facilitate aid. Here's a detailed breakdown:

Humanitarian and Economic Aid Status

  • No New Appropriations in 2025: The Trump administration has not sought new congressional funding for humanitarian or economic aid to Ukraine since taking office in January 2025. This aligns with a broader policy shift toward reducing direct U.S. taxpayer-funded commitments and encouraging European allies to take on more financial responsibility.
  • Disbursement of Prior Funds: The U.S. is still disbursing funds from earlier appropriations (FY2022–FY2024), which include significant humanitarian and economic components:
    • Total Economic/Humanitarian Aid (2022–June 2025): Approximately $63.7 billion of the $130.6 billion in total U.S. aid to Ukraine since February 2022 has been allocated for non-military purposes, including $37.8 billion through the Economic Support Fund for budget support and recovery efforts (per Kiel Institute data).
    • As of June 2025, around $47.2 billion of this remains undisbursed, meaning funds are still flowing to support Ukraine’s humanitarian needs (e.g., refugee assistance, food security) and economic stabilization (e.g., government salaries, infrastructure repairs).
  • U.S.-Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund: Established in April 2025, this fund uses immobilized Russian assets (not U.S. taxpayer dollars) to support Ukraine’s long-term economic recovery and reconstruction. It focuses on infrastructure and economic resilience but is not considered "new" U.S. funding since it leverages seized assets.
  • Indirect Support via International Mechanisms: The U.S. coordinates with allies to channel humanitarian and economic aid through multilateral frameworks:
    • The U.S. supports EU-led initiatives, such as the Ukraine Facility (€50 billion from the EU for 2024–2027), which covers budgetary support and humanitarian needs.
    • Contributions to international organizations (e.g., UN agencies, World Bank) continue, though these are not exclusively U.S.-funded and often draw from pre-existing budgets.

Context and Outlook

  • Policy Shift: The Trump administration’s focus on burden-sharing means European allies are taking the lead on new humanitarian and economic commitments. For example, the EU and its members have collectively provided €165.7 billion in total support (including humanitarian/economic aid), surpassing U.S. contributions.
  • Impact: Ongoing disbursements from prior U.S. funds ensure Ukraine receives some economic and humanitarian support, but the lack of new appropriations could strain Kyiv if pre-2025 funds are depleted without replacement. The Reconstruction Investment Fund mitigates this by tapping non-U.S. resources.
  • Criticism and Risks: Some U.S. lawmakers and advocates argue that reduced direct funding risks weakening Ukraine’s economic stability, especially as Russia’s attacks continue. Others support the shift, citing domestic priorities and European capacity to lead.

For the latest figures, check the Kiel Institute’s Ukraine Support Tracker or State Department reports. If you need specific details on a category (e.g., refugee aid), let me know!

I've read assertions that US funds are providing training to Ukrainian soldiers. If this is true, would these funds be from prior disbursements?

Yes, the United States is providing training to Ukrainian soldiers as part of its support in the ongoing conflict with Russia, and these efforts are funded through prior disbursements rather than new appropriations in 2025. Here’s a concise breakdown:
  • Training Confirmation: The U.S. continues to train Ukrainian forces, primarily through programs like the Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine and Operation Atlantic Resolve. Training includes instruction on U.S.-provided weapons systems (e.g., HIMARS, Patriot systems) and takes place at U.S. military bases in Germany (e.g., Grafenwöhr) and other European locations. As of mid-2025, over 20,000 Ukrainian troops have been trained by the U.S. since 2022.
  • Funding Source: No new congressional appropriations for Ukraine aid, including training, have been requested or approved in 2025 under the Trump administration. Training programs are financed using previously allocated funds from FY2022–FY2024 supplemental budgets, which included $66.9 billion for military aid (of which training is a component). As of June 2025, approximately $29 billion in military aid remains undisbursed, covering ongoing training and equipment transfers.
  • Context: The Trump administration has shifted new military support to a NATO-funded model (e.g., the Prioritized Ukraine Requirements List), where European allies pay for U.S.-origin arms and related training. However, U.S.-led training programs still draw from pre-2025 U.S. funds for logistics, instructors, and facilities.

If you need specifics on training programs or funding breakdowns, let me know, and I can dig deeper or check real-time sources like the Department of Defense or Kiel Institute for updates.

What portion of the population has left Ukraine as refugees?

Ukrainian Refugees as a Portion of the Population

As of September 2025, approximately 5.7 million Ukrainians have fled the country as refugees due to Russia's ongoing invasion, according to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR). This represents about 15% of Ukraine's pre-war population (estimated at 41 million in early 2022, excluding Crimea and occupied Donbas territories). Relative to Ukraine's current estimated population of around 32 million (as of early 2025, accounting for war-related losses, displacement, and demographic decline), the refugee figure equates to roughly 18% of the remaining population.

  • Broader Displacement Impact:
    • Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs): An additional 3.7 million people are displaced within Ukraine (as of February 2025).
    • Total Forcibly Displaced: Over one-third (about 35%) of Ukraine's pre-war population has been uprooted, combining refugees and IDPs.
    • Humanitarian Needs: Around 12.7 million people in Ukraine require assistance in 2025, with women and children comprising 76% of refugees.

Population Trends and Challenges

Ukraine's population has declined sharply since 2022 due to the war:

  • Pre-War (2021): ~42 million (government-controlled areas).
  • Current Estimate (2025): 31–32 million, per Ukrainian officials and UN projections, reflecting ~7 million emigrants, excess deaths, and low birth rates (fertility rate ~1.0 children per woman).

What percentage of Ukraine's workforce is still working?

Ukraine's Workforce Employment Amid the War (as of October 2025)

 
IndicatorValue (2025)Pre-War (2021)Notes/Source
Employment-to-Population Ratio67%73%IOM survey (Nov 2024); includes ages 18–60; affected by 6.7M refugees and 3.7M IDPs.
Unemployment Rate15.3% (Aug)9.8%Info Sapiens/CES; structural mismatches persist despite shortages in skilled roles.
Labor Force Size~20.4M~22.7MStatista forecast; 74% of employers report shortages (EBA survey, Apr 2024–2025 trend).
 


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KEYWORDS: grokissilly; nobodyaskedyou; proxywar; putin; russia; ukraine; welfarewar

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