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To: marcusmaximus

If there are no American that can do the job, then that should be an embarrassment to everyone involved in education. We indeed have a large section of population that consists of uneducable layabouts, and there is little that can be done with them. I don’t believe the work-around is to import third world foreign workers.


4 posted on 10/01/2025 7:54:59 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: bk1000
not disagreeing with you about our education system, but one must ask: if India has such budding, talented technical engineers, why doesn’t Mumbai rival American tech hubs with respect to innovation and capital funding from well-heeled entities?

importing huge swaths of these workers (80% of whom tend to vote Democrat!) is perhaps even WORSE than hiring an average American college grad, who may only be 60-80% likely to vote Democrat.
14 posted on 10/01/2025 8:13:59 AM PDT by millenial4freedom (Government was supposed to preserve freedom, not serve as a jobs program for delinquents and misfits)
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To: bk1000
True story. My daughter was friends with a couple of classmates who were high school sweethearts. They got married shortly after graduation and she completed a health care degree program at Duquense while he pursued an IT degree at Carnegie-Mellon, both reputable universities in Pittsburgh.

Both graduated with respectable grades and she got a job almost immediately in Monroeville, an eastern suburb of Pittsburgh.

The guy was getting zero interviews and zero offers despite a strong IT presence in the 'burgh. Meanwhile, his classmates from India with comparable grades were getting MULTIPLE offers, some without even interviewing.

Eventually, he had to settle for a job in Allentown, opposite end of the commonwealth and commute home on weekends. This was about 2012.

Eventually, someone smuggled a video camera into a seminar in downtown Pittsburgh which was entitled (I kid you not) "How not to hire an American" which was attended by IT HR executives. When it was posted and went viral, it caused such a firestorm that eventually one of the IT attendees reached out and invited the young man to an interview where he was finally able to land a job in the same metro area as his wife.

Long story short is that there are basically two reasons why Americans don't get hired for these jobs. The first is that the IT companies are dominated by people from India who prefer to hire their own kind. The second is that those which are not just love the indentured servitude aspects of the H-1B visa for the cost savings and are addicted to cheap. The result is that American kids see so many similar experiences of the young man in my narrative and skip IT degrees.

20 posted on 10/01/2025 8:18:46 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys many aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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