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Chicago’s Pension Funds are Nearly Insolvent – Incoming $28m Bailout
Armstrong Economics ^ | 19 Sep 25 | Martin Arm

Posted on 09/19/2025 6:19:30 AM PDT by delta7

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I have been watching this debacle for years, my last relative in Chicago moved to Phoenix last year because of outrageous property taxes….
1 posted on 09/19/2025 6:19:30 AM PDT by delta7
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I think there needs to be an investigation into how the city got into this position in the first place. How did funds earmarked for pensions end up being spent...and by whom?


2 posted on 09/19/2025 6:22:01 AM PDT by econjack
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All those in Blue states.....

PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION. When the State fails financially because of the grift, the State employees pensions evaporate.

The last treasury steal is from the ‘little people’ that supported the Democrats, when they leave them with no pensions. Just like Joe Biden tried to bankrupt the Government and destroy Social Security with illegals.


3 posted on 09/19/2025 6:30:28 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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No federal funds to bail them out. Let the state, city and public sector workers eat the loss. Their irresponsible circus, their monkeys.


4 posted on 09/19/2025 6:31:16 AM PDT by chuckee
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When you think of Chicago you immediately think about crime, but the Democrats have been f-ing a lot of other things too. It’s the same thing as has been going on in Iran. The imam’s have been obsessed with destroying the infidels that they neglected to take care of the little things, like supplying water to their country. Whoops! Maybe providing water isn’t such a little thing after all.


5 posted on 09/19/2025 6:31:16 AM PDT by Spok (If you really want to kill a good idea, give it to a committee.)
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To: delta7

I’ve always thought that it would be easier to change the Illinois constitution than to pay off all the accumulated pension obligations.

The crash will be within the next 5 years or economic downturn.


6 posted on 09/19/2025 6:32:31 AM PDT by glorgau
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I feel for the pensioners, but they probably voted Dem.


7 posted on 09/19/2025 6:32:36 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (How it started: Covfefe - - - - - How it is going: COVFAFO)
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When the State fails financially because of the grift, the State employees pensions evaporate.

New York State is in trouble for the next couple of decades. Their Tier 1 pension was incredibly generous.

8 posted on 09/19/2025 6:35:41 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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“ The Illinois Constitution does not permit cities to file for Chapter 9 bankruptcy.”

Federal law controls bankruptcies. This would be a great test case for that.

L


9 posted on 09/19/2025 6:37:27 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.l)
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--- "The last treasury steal is from the ‘little people’ that supported the Democrats, when they leave them with no pensions. Just like Joe Biden tried to bankrupt the Government and destroy Social Security with illegals."

Chicago is not alone in the mess, of course. But check out the California State Pensions, a system of theft at this point:

All pensions "21,535,311 records found – Page 1 of 430,707"

This is the often-unseen mess boiling beneath the surface. Time to let things collapse, I'd say.
10 posted on 09/19/2025 6:38:39 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: delta7
This is all part of the bigger discussion required, about the concept of affordable government. One mitigating factor with all of this is that most if not all of the people eligible for these pensions have been keeping up with COVID shots, so the lifespan may decrease and lower the pressure on the funds.

That almost never comes up in reports about public pension short-funding.

11 posted on 09/19/2025 6:48:26 AM PDT by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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I think there needs to be an investigation into how the city got into this position in the first place
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You are funny. It started twenty years ago, and every attempt was overridden. From my sources ( relatives living there), the age of low interest rates and free money caused it.

The city kept taking loans to cover the imbalance. Borrow at .5 percent interest, then 1.5 percent, then 3, etc….now with high rates the Ponzi scheme is in collapse. Now, No banks or financial institutions will roll over the debt into any new loans.

They were insolvent years ago. All Ponzi schemes eventually end.” Exhibit A” for our federal government. The massive amount our Federal Reserve prints up and loans out will also fail….as we are witnessing ( we now pay over $1 trillion to the Federal Reserve in interest payments alone).

September 30th is nearing. We shall see.


12 posted on 09/19/2025 6:56:11 AM PDT by delta7
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No federal funds to bail them out. Let the state, city and public sector workers eat the loss.
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Fine and dandy. However a few major banks have been involved in the Ponzi scheme, they kept loaning money to the city to roll over the previous unpaid debt, each new loan had higher interest rates.

Not saying it will happen, but a few banks may have to eat huge losses. The poor people of Chicago were the equivalent of our Federal Reserve…now they have been bleed dry through taxation.

One wonders how much longer our “ lender of last resort” Federal Reserve can keep printing up and loaning out money to keep the US government afloat…..the answer? It can’t….tic, Toc, tic, Toc.


13 posted on 09/19/2025 7:09:05 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Bernard

The Covid mRNA shots are still killing and disabling many, reducing our population.


14 posted on 09/19/2025 7:11:37 AM PDT by delta7
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To: econjack

The Omaha city pension was managed by local members including one I went to school with who was a plumber. The ratio got down to around 50% before they took it away and had professionals managing it.

O work for a quasi governmental agency and while I’m on the traditional pension, workers hired after 2010 have a pension, but when they retire, they get the cash value that they then manage.

The trend towards 401ks is the right one in my opinion. You should be responsible for your retirement, not the taxpayers. That’s whose going to underwrite the raiding and pi$$ poor management of these Chicago slush funds.


15 posted on 09/19/2025 7:15:54 AM PDT by Mean Daddy
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Once the Chicago mob get its hands on your money, you won’t get it back.


16 posted on 09/19/2025 7:18:38 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: delta7

Since I don’t live in Chicago, I don’t know what they were doing. I do know that a lot of other cities take their pension obligations seriously enough that they don’t borrow from pension funds. Alas, the Federal Government was originally forbidden from raiding Social Security, but they rescinded that law and began giving away our future. How smart would it be to take all of the tariff funds plus money saved by DOGE and immediately apply it to the Federal debt? Congress has more than enough money as it is. Time to put these clowns on a diet.


17 posted on 09/19/2025 7:18:57 AM PDT by econjack
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To: delta7

LOL!!! SHITCAGO!


18 posted on 09/19/2025 7:24:40 AM PDT by Democrat = party of treason
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To: Mean Daddy

I agree. As it is, if I take what I paid into SS plus my employers’ contributions and invested it at 5% for 46 years, I need to live to be 143 years old to break even. Given my life expectancy, if I had those funds now, I could take more than double my present SS check and still have funds left over at age 95.

President Bush tied to privatize SS, but people said they were afraid to manage their funds. How stupid. If you’re afraid, hire a professional money manager. At least they won’t spend your money by giving illegals free room and board at the Roosevelt Hotel in NYC.


19 posted on 09/19/2025 7:26:23 AM PDT by econjack
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To: delta7

There are movements to eliminate property taxes for seniors, I would vote against that (even as a senior) because of all the seniors that voted for increased taxes and out of control spending. They should not get off the hook for what they caused.

That said I would vote for ending property taxes for everyone.


20 posted on 09/19/2025 7:39:44 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall)
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