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To: Reverend Wright

“”””Step One in “kicking ass” should be making artillery shells, especially 3 years after the war started.
Instead, all we get is fiascos.”””””

Is that what you think America NATO would bring to the war, more mud caked grunts and artillerymen to sit in trenches and trade artillery shells and rifle fire?

Artillery shells are something we send to the Ukrainians, they are not what we and the other NATO nations would be bringing to the war.

Besides, we and our allies are producing millions now to keep Ukraine supplied, also, if NATO joined Ukraine, artillery’s role would greatly decrease.


55 posted on 09/15/2025 2:43:21 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

And my dad can beat up your dad... But our dads, with more pragmatism and a better sense of repercussions, probably won’t settle our dispute for us. Give it up and go back to working on your fantasy football picks.


62 posted on 09/15/2025 2:57:27 PM PDT by Kinzua (What have we allowed to happen?)
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To: ansel12; All

” ...we and our allies are producing millions now...”


Nope. In three years all we get is fiascos, and threats to remove contracts.

https://thedefensepost.com/2025/07/02/us-shell-factories-texas/


63 posted on 09/15/2025 2:58:21 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Anschluss now !)
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To: ansel12; All

Does this represent current NATO minefield breaching tactics and equipment ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI0Vprf7FBo

How about this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ-sCT_maAQ&t=219s

Because the planning here is for 100m deep minefields when the russian ones were many km deep, and a million mines per sq km in some areas (200k vehicle mines)


67 posted on 09/15/2025 3:04:36 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Anschluss now !)
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