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To: jimwatx

You are avoiding my point. By what logic would NATO start a war with Russia that they thought Ukraine would loose in a matter of days? And what do you expect of Ukraine, that they should just roll over and surrender? Ukraine will fight for its independence with or without NATO support.


23 posted on 09/05/2025 7:55:22 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

For all practical purposes Ukraine has already lost or haven’t you been paying attention to what’s been happening on the battlefield? Biden was just following the plans of our deep state security establishment who are all onboard with war with Russia. Trump’s winning of the election put a temporary crimp in their plans. But now it seems Trump may be faltering in his plans to end this thing and instead keeping it going. Europe sure hasn’t given up on it. So at this point it remains to be seen just how far Trump will go along with this. Should Trump stop providing military aid to Ukraine I wouldn’t be surprised if he was taken out by the deep state. That’s how intent they are to pursue this war with Russia. They want to depose Putin and divvy Russia up into separate territories that will be under control of Western influence. Once that is achieved we will have China more or less surrounded and able to keep their ambitions at bay. Trust me both Putin and Xi are well aware of our plans.


33 posted on 09/05/2025 8:19:24 AM PDT by jimwatx
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