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To: grumpygresh

“From your understanding, what does Ukraine give up?”

Very little land that it hasn’t already lost, if Ukraine stops wasting time. No NATO membership allowed.

“What type of defense would Ukraine be allowed to have?”

This is an area where negotiations don’t seem settled, but Ukraine would be limited, no doubt about that.

“Would Putin allow for EU troops to be stationed in Ukraine?”

No, Putin considers EU/NATO troops at the Russian border to be an existential threat to Russia. Think Cuban missile crisis.


46 posted on 09/04/2025 9:22:21 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“””””No, Putin considers EU/NATO troops at the Russian border to be an existential threat to Russia.””””

Why do you guys keep posting that when you know that Russia shares about 1600 miles of border with our alliance nations and forces, and never seems very concerned about it?


50 posted on 09/04/2025 9:49:08 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: SaxxonWoods

What type of deference if any should the West provide for Ukraine?
Would there be any consequences to Russia if it attacked Ukraine again after conclusion of a peace deal?


51 posted on 09/04/2025 9:49:23 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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