[daniel1212]

I sometimes explain it like this. No one would look at program code and think, "I'm glad a cat just walked back and forth across a keyboard and randomly typed out a program that just happened to work". Yet just one strand of DNA has 3 billion base pairs that have to work just right for us to live and function. That's more coding than this software engineer has made since I started programming my Commodore 64 as a hobby, all the coding I did to get my CS degree, all of the coding I've done in my career, and all of the program code I've seen from others. It's ridiculous to think that DNA came about just from random chance.

To believe that an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with profound intricate, elaborate complexity and extensive diversity, can be all a result of purely natural processes requires much faith. More so i submit, than that the universe logically testifies to design, requiring a First Cause (at the least), that of a being of supreme power and intelligence being behind the existence of energy and organization of matter, and laws regarding the same.

[thepoodlebites]

all of the coding I’ve done in my career, and all of the program code I’ve seen from others. It’s ridiculous to think that DNA came about just from random chance.
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To believe that an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with profound intricate, elaborate complexity and extensive diversity, can be all a result of purely natural processes requires much faith. More so i submit, than that the universe logically testifies to design, requiring a First Cause (at the least), that of a being of supreme power and intelligence being behind the existence of energy and organization of matter, and laws regarding the same.
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Excellent discussion. As a scientist, the more I learned about the physics of the universe, the more I was convinced that the universe was not an accident. The evidence for design in nature is overwhelming.
You mentioned the cosmological argument involving a prime mover, proposed by Thomas Aquinas. I’m finding that the teleological argument is gaining strength via Intelligent Design. My prima facie argument: there are too many cosmic coincidences that allowed life to proliferate on Earth, beginning with the abundance of carbon and water in the universe (triple alpha process), the inherent property of water to be most transparent to light in the blue-green part of the visible spectrum, location of the sun (a class G2 star) w.r.t. Earth, the size and location of our moon and the origin of the first self-replicating RNA molecule, these examples represent too many apparent fine-tunings so that the probability of life emerging through spontaneous processes or via self-organization are so low as to be mathematically impossible.