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The post references a potential Supreme Court review of the 1935 Humphrey's Executor ruling, which limited presidential power to fire heads of independent agencies like the FTC, a decision now under scrutiny as Trump seeks greater executive control,
supported by a 6-3 conservative majority that has already narrowed similar precedents in 2020.

This shift challenges the long-standing concept of independent agencies as a "fourth branch" of government, with historical context showing their creation during the New Deal to balance executive influence, yet recent legal challenges—like the May 2025 ruling allowing Trump to fire MSPB and NLRB members—suggest a constitutional debate on whether such independence violates Article II’s executive power.

Data from the Administrative Conference of the United States (2023)
indicates over 100 independent agencies
employ 2.1 million people,
managing $600 billion annually, highlighting the scale of potential change if the Court overturns 90 years of precedent, potentially realigning agency accountability with elected leadership.

5,172 posted on 09/22/2025 7:24:55 PM PDT by foldspace
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Constitutional Government of the United States

BranchSub-EntityApproximate Number of Employees (2024)Notes/Source
Executive Branch
(Total: ~2.8 million)
President & Vice President<1,000Includes Executive Office of the President staff.
Department of Defense (DoD)772,000Largest agency; includes civilian roles only (excludes ~1.3 million active-duty military).
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)486,000Second largest; health and benefits focus.
Department of Homeland Security (DHS)194,000Includes TSA, CBP, ICE.
Department of Justice (DOJ)115,000Includes FBI, DEA.
Department of the Treasury100,000Includes IRS (~80,000).
Department of Agriculture (USDA)100,000Includes USDA sub-agencies.
Department of Health & Human Services (HHS)80,000Includes FDA, CDC.
Department of the Interior (DOI)70,000Includes national parks, BLM.
Department of Transportation (DOT)55,000Includes FAA, highway safety.
Department of Commerce50,000Includes NOAA, Census Bureau.
Department of State13,000Includes foreign service.
Department of Labor (DOL)15,000Includes OSHA, BLS.
Department of Energy (DOE)15,000Includes national labs.
Department of Housing & Urban Development (HUD)8,000Housing programs.
Department of Education4,000Smallest cabinet department.
Legislative Branch
(Total: ~30,000)
U.S. Congress (overall)30,000Staff, support roles.
House of Representatives15,000Includes personal and committee staff.
U.S. Senate10,000Includes personal and committee staff.
Legislative Support Agencies (e.g., GAO, LOC, CRS)5,000Includes Government Accountability Office (~3,000).
Judicial Branch
(Total: ~30,000)
U.S. Supreme Court500Justices and support staff.
U.S. Courts of Appeals & District Courts25,000Judges, clerks, administrative staff.
Other (e.g., Federal Judicial Center, Sentencing Commission)4,500Support and policy roles.

Independent Establishments and Government Corporations (Fourth Branch)

EntityApproximate Number of Employees (2024)
African Development FoundationN/A (<100)
Amtrak (National Railroad Passenger Corporation)20,000
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)N/A (classified, ~20,000 estimated)
Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board (CSB)~25
Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC)~700
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)1,600
Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC)500
Election Assistance Commission (EAC)~50
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)15,000
Export–Import Bank of the United States (EXIM)400
Fannie Mae (Federal National Mortgage Association)8,000
Federal Communications Commission (FCC)1,500
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC)6,000
Federal Election Commission (FEC)300
Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)N/A (part of DHS, but semi-independent ops; ~20,000)
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC)1,500
Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)700
Federal Maritime Commission (FMC)100
Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service (FMCS)300
Federal Reserve System20,000 (across 12 regional banks)
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board (FRTIB)100
Federal Trade Commission (FTC)1,200
Freddie Mac (Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation)8,000
General Services Administration (GSA)12,000
International Trade Commission (ITC)400
National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA)18,000
National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)5,000
National Credit Union Administration (NCUA)1,200
National Endowment for the Arts (NEA)~150
National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH)~150
National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)1,600
National Science Foundation (NSF)1,700
National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB)400
Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)3,000
Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC)N/A (~3,500)
Office of Special Counsel (OSC)100
Peace Corps1,000
Postal Regulatory Commission (PRC)100
Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)4,500
Selective Service System (SSS)100
Small Business Administration (SBA)3,000
Social Security Administration (SSA)59,000
Surface Transportation Board (STB)100
Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA)10,000
United States Agency for International Development (USAID)10,000
United States Office of Personnel Management (OPM)3,000
United States Postal Service (USPS)600,000
United States Trade and Development Agency (USTDA)100


Constitutional Government of the United States

The constitutional government refers to the three branches established by the U.S. Constitution: Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. At top is a hierarchical table summarizing these branches, with major sub-entities and approximate employee numbers based on 2024 data (primarily civilian full-time equivalents, excluding military for DoD). Totals are rounded and derived from OPM FedScope and BLS data; the Executive Branch dominates with ~98% of federal civilian employees.

Overall Total for Three Branches: ~2.86 million civilian employees (excludes ~600,000 USPS and certain independents counted in the fourth branch below).

Total for Fourth Branch (approx.): ~750,000 (dominated by USPS and SSA).

5,193 posted on 09/22/2025 8:46:14 PM PDT by foldspace
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