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To: MinorityRepublican

Ukraine never had a nuclear arsenal. Please tell us who the commander back then of the Ukrainian strategic nuclear force was? Tell us about the Ukrainian command structure about Ukraine launching them. There isn’t any. All of the so-called Ukrainian nuclear missiles were owned and controlled by Moscow. They didn’t give up anything. And thank God they didn’t get control of any, otherwise there would be a Nazi bomb in the world right now in the hands of that massively corrupt nation.

Additionally, the Budapest agreement was concluded with the nation state of Ukraine that completely ended in 2014 in a violent Banderist neo-nazi coup sponsored by the CIA. That was when Ukraine lost its sovereignty. Russia made no moves regarding Ukraine until well after the DC London axis did so.
So really, in effect, Russia moved to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine from a western invasion. At least that’s the point of view of a huge chunk of people in the east and Crimea.


26 posted on 08/24/2025 8:01:35 AM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: DesertRhino
All of the so-called Ukrainian nuclear missiles were owned and controlled by Moscow.

How were the nuclear missiles in Ukraine, "owned" by Moscow after 1991, when there were no more Russian troops in Ukraine?

Ukrainians didn't have the commands for the nuclear missiles, but there is no doubt Ukraine would be able to achieve eventual control.

28 posted on 08/24/2025 8:11:14 AM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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To: DesertRhino
Ukraine never had a nuclear arsenal.

That is Russian propaganda.

Ukraine had physical possession of nuclear weapons in 1994. That was the whole purpose behind the Budapest Memorandum. Ukraine agreed to give up their nuclear weapons in return for "security guarantees".

Ukraine did not have the codes, they were in Moscow.

Ukraine had scientists who worked in the Soviet nuclear program.

They did not have the economy or the political will to maintain a program with nuclear weapons in the '90s.

29 posted on 08/24/2025 8:18:48 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: DesertRhino
So really, in effect, Russia moved to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine from a western invasion

LOL, the same way Soviet Russia invaded to save Czechoslovakia from the Prague Spring in 1968.

Amazing that Russia has to invade its neighbors in order to "protect" their sovereignty, while European countries gladly join NATO.


30 posted on 08/24/2025 8:20:36 AM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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To: DesertRhino

It is not even noon on a Sunday!


34 posted on 08/24/2025 8:30:58 AM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: DesertRhino

IATG


37 posted on 08/24/2025 8:56:36 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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