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To: Carry_Okie

Ordinarily when a population outgrows its multi-generational territory, it either makes a deal with the neighbors, or gets into a conflict with them. Precolumbian America was no different than any other place on Earth. Given the number of language families, I very much doubt that the Americas were settled in one go, by just one pretty small cultural group.

OTOH, I’d think the Polynesian expansion was probably merely the last coat of paint. At least some of the places they took over had been occupied before, but being islands, if the prior population had managed to lose inter-island mobility, it was bound to be a fight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_the_Indigenous_languages_of_the_Americas


26 posted on 08/17/2025 4:59:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Given the number of language families, I very much doubt that the Americas were settled in one go, by just one pretty small cultural group.

I'm in total agreement there, particularly considering the persistence and spatial distribution of so many distinct language phyla. I suspect the maritime migration was one of the first. You'll recall that quote I posted from Juan Crespi about the song sung by maritime people of Queen Charlotte Is. as being the same as sung all the way to San Diego despite the distribution of those remote language families:

We saw the smoke of many :fires made by the inhabitants of the point, and that the land was well covered with trees resembling pines. With that point the land formed a good bay, and we noticed that from a roadstead in the land a canoe was com ing out and being rowed toward the frigate. While they were still some distance from the bark we heard them singing, and by the tone we knew them to be heathen, for they sing the same song as those from San Diego to Monterey. BTW, there is a map of California Indian language families on p17 of the site history chapter of the Wildergarten picture book.
33 posted on 08/17/2025 6:17:04 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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