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To: Kazan

Going in to this meeting in Alaska, the EU ‘elites’ and Z were warning Trump would be (easily) manipulated by Putin. I guess they always knew Putin wasn’t going to give back all their land so how could they explain that was just a ruse to keep their unobtainable demands in place and the war in motion? It had to be ‘Trump’s fault’ but no one would believe he’s stupid, so they are going with ‘he’s easily manipulated.’ Frankly, I don’t find that any more believable than the false charge that he’s stupid. But that’s just me.

So now Z and the EU elites got nothing...and they like it? They’re supposedly optimistic that peace is near. After the talk with Trump, he exited the call and they continued their call to discuss what Trump had said. By going straight to peace, they skip EU/Z demands for ‘security guarantees’ from the President. ‘Security guarantees’ is all they’ve been talking about for a few years, and now they’re not getting those guarantees and they’re fine with that?

It’s all so ‘perfect’. He had a perfect call.....

I think President finally pulled the trigger and laid it out for them. The US will walk away if they don’t shut up and take this deal. No more humanitarian aid (maybe), no more supporting the Ukrainian economy, no more military aid. The longer the US supports the Ukraine, the longer it intends to fight. The US’s aid is not helping the Ukraine’s citizens; it’s being used by NATO to fund their proxy war.

NATO/Dems plotted this war, overthrew the Ukraine, built fortifications and war machine, taunted Putin with impending NATO membership, and have been attacking Putin in a proxy war he acknowledges. And now, Trump told them he will walk away if he hears one peep out of them, leaving them at the feet of Putin. The EU has only scraps of a military and now they will potentially be at Putin’s feet, naked and afraid.

So, no more aid. It also seems that the ‘deal’ requires the EU elites and Z not to complain about it in public. The MSM can carry all the elites’ talking points but it looks like they themselves have to shut up and talk peace.

That’s my guess - why else would they all ‘get nothing and like it’?


18 posted on 08/16/2025 8:50:11 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
And now, Trump told them he will walk away if he hears one peep out of them, leaving them at the feet of Putin. The EU has only scraps of a military and now they will potentially be at Putin’s feet, naked and afraid.

Russia has had unbelievable trouble making it 100 miles into Ukraine. What makes you think they're much of an actual threat to countries 200, 500 miles away? Even with their crappy military, it's still better than what Russia can put down!
78 posted on 08/16/2025 8:09:39 PM PDT by Svartalfiar (-)
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