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JD Vance says he’s ‘obsessed’ with mysterious UFO videos
newsnationnow.com ^ | Anna Kutz

Posted on 08/02/2025 4:07:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: cgbg
Trump and Vance haven’t been in office for 80 years. They can’t be held responsible for what came before.

I do trust Trump to be more transparent than any president we’ve had—but there’s still a serious challenge he’d have to overcome, as former senior CIA officer Jim Semivan explains in his interview with Chris Lehto (Senior CIA Officer: Even We Don't Know What the Phenomenon Is).

I don’t necessarily agree with Semivan’s conclusion, but he makes a sober case: any president faces enormous risks in disclosing the full truth.

According to Semivan, we’re dealing with a phenomenon we don’t understand, can’t control, and can’t defend against. If a president openly admitted that non-human intelligences (NHIs) exist—beings that can take people, manipulate minds, and possibly view us as property—it could trigger mass panic, social collapse, and psychological trauma across a significant portion of the population.

A government-backed study even concluded that full disclosure could destabilize society if just 25% of people panicked or dissociated. That’s why Semivan calls this the “wickedest problem”—a problem with no clear solution, and consequences no one can fully predict.

81 posted on 08/03/2025 5:12:02 AM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

They can make excuses for eighty more years.

At this point it is like a kid coming up with a thousand reasons for not getting their homework done.

It is just getting boring.


82 posted on 08/03/2025 5:15:10 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: cgbg
I think it's a little more complicated than that. Even if Trump is determined to disclose, he isn't going to make a national announcement. He's going to let it ooze out.

Are you saying you don't believe there will be disclosure? Have you made up your mind about that?

83 posted on 08/03/2025 5:35:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

Correct answer.

We are getting gaslit and played.


84 posted on 08/03/2025 5:41:15 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: cgbg
The correct answer is there is nothing to disclose.

You have naive people who don't know what Venus looks like at dusk.

You have your professional hoaxers who make money off an "unexplained light in the sky" and other flimsy narratives. This is no job title Ufologist.

You have pranksters who go back to people throwing pie tins into the air or dangling hubcaps on strings and taking photos.

Lastly you have gullible people who are so desperate to "believe" they fall for any con.

That's the only disclose there is about alleged ufo sightings.

85 posted on 08/03/2025 7:16:11 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: cgbg
We are getting gaslit and played.

We might be getting gaslit in some ways, but the UFO phenomenon is too big, too old, and too global to be explained by a single deception. People have reported consistent experiences—abductions, craft, missing time—long before modern psyops existed.

If it were all lies, it would’ve unraveled by now. More likely, we’re dealing with a real phenomenon that’s also being manipulated by multiple players, possibly for different agendas.

86 posted on 08/03/2025 7:19:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

The playing and the gaslighting is the claim that “disclosure is coming”.

It is not.

It is time to get over it.


87 posted on 08/03/2025 9:19:45 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: cgbg

Do you think the US government has ownership of the entire UFO phenomenon? They don’t.


88 posted on 08/03/2025 9:45:43 AM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: cgbg
It is time to get over it.

As in, you know the secrets and are telling everyone else they should "get over it."

That's pretty arrogant.

89 posted on 08/03/2025 9:48:26 AM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

I may not know everything—but I know a lot more than they are disclosing.

They are not going to play “lucy and the football” with me anymore.

I am done.


90 posted on 08/03/2025 9:57:49 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: cgbg

I went back over your comments and realized I confused your frustration with the government—which I share—with arrogance.

I was wrong, and I’m sorry for that.


91 posted on 08/03/2025 11:25:52 AM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: RoosterRedux

Not a problem.

You are not the problem.

Lol.


92 posted on 08/03/2025 11:27:00 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: MikelTackNailer

Elon Musk introduced Grok 4 in early July. He said its so powerful it now exceeds all phd in every discipline and that he expects a number of scientific discoveries based on its use before the end of the year. He further said that Grok 5 will still more powerful. He expect Grok 5 to cause a new physics before the end of 2026.

Both Chatgpt and google deepmind competed in a math olympiad in the last couple of weeks. Both programs aced all questions. This has never been done before.

what AI people are saying now is that AI has now perfected both all math and all computer programming. They are now working on making the programs that runs scientific questions to be self iterative. That means that rather than the scientists asking the questions, getting answers, and then asking more questions—the computers do all that.

As of now the AI does roughly 20% of that. That percentage is going to rise over the next year. As the percent approaches 100% the speed of new discoveries is going to increase—including a new physics.

The new physics is what will enable us to einstein’s speed limit and take us to the stars.

Star Trek figured the first warp engines will be developed in 2062 or there abouts. But it might come sooner.


93 posted on 08/03/2025 2:01:25 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
I hope these Artificial Intelligence programs do help us advance beyond current knowledge at a faster rate, but they will always lack the spark of original thinking that humans possess. They can only work from that starting point.

We lost a lot of potential advancement when the Texas Super Collider got cancelled for 'budget considerations' - after many millions had already been spent excavating and preparation. Now that's strictly Europe's domain with CERT and they damn sure share their discoveries with our enemies before us. Penny wise and pound foolish, long gone politicians.

Hopefully A.I. will help us get to the future and not get to the position of allowing us to. As the movie said "Skynet decided our fates in a microsecond."

94 posted on 08/03/2025 3:19:23 PM PDT by MikelTackNailer (Your technology frightens and confuses me.)
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To: MikelTackNailer

most people think that CERN is a job security program for physicists.

The real ground breaking work in fusion is being done by small fusion companies around the world—but most especially in the USA. A couple of fusion companies have already promised to provide power for the grid between 2028-2031.

I surely do hope that humans will always have qualities that the AI doesn’t have.

The future is not fixed right now.


95 posted on 08/03/2025 3:27:22 PM PDT by ckilmer
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