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To: MtnClimber

It was not treason. Treason is a specific crime that is defined in the Constitution. What they say happened does not meet that criteria.

It is more likely conspiracy and sedition.

It’s still bad, but it’s to treason. And it’s not likely anyone will be charged, tried, or convicted. And Obama would likely have immunity from his position as President.

Expose it. And move on.


4 posted on 07/22/2025 4:09:17 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

I am not troubled with the colloquial use of the term to describe the Obama conspiracies (plural). Note that the crime of “purse snatching” might not exist in a give jurisdiction. Will you insist that reports only use the term “larceny” as it might appear in the charging document?


5 posted on 07/22/2025 4:15:37 AM PDT by jimfree (My 22 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Bump - thank you.

If they go for “treason” or “sedition” - having to with enemies or force - it’ll either be defeated outright or fought endlessly on definitions.

They can be ruined in so many ways - RICO, conspiracy, denial of civil rights, election laws etc. Also tied up and bankrupted by lots of civil law suits.

Don’t waste time/energy/money on defining treason or sedition.


6 posted on 07/22/2025 4:17:54 AM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: Vermont Lt

No

I say throw the book at them on every charge that even remotely applies.

We have to fight fire with fire, or we will lose.


7 posted on 07/22/2025 4:32:13 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: Vermont Lt

If there’s clear, admissible evidence that Obama knowingly conspired to undermine the incoming Trump administration—through false claims or manipulation of intelligence—then he could be prosecuted.

Presidential immunity ends after leaving office, and no one is above the law. Official acts aren’t protected if they involve criminal conspiracy, fraud, or obstruction. Prosecuting a former president would be unprecedented and politically explosive, but it’s legally possible if the evidence is strong enough.

The most likely prosecutable offense—if sufficient evidence exists—would be conspiracy to defraud the U.S. under § 371, especially if officials collaborated to fabricate or promote false narratives to interfere with lawful government processes.


9 posted on 07/22/2025 4:39:39 AM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: Vermont Lt

It’s seditious conspiracy and there’s Code for that...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384

Expose it.

Charge it.

Get convictions.

Incarcerate the perps and lose the keys.


12 posted on 07/22/2025 4:48:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: Vermont Lt

“It is more likely conspiracy and sedition.”

In the very least we have a huge criminal RICO charge. HUGE!!


14 posted on 07/22/2025 4:52:00 AM PDT by Racketeer
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To: Vermont Lt

“Move on”? Thanks for “exposing” yourself as one of the “Republicans” who are best described: “Why won’t Republicans fight? Because there is no fight in them”.

It took an ex-Democrat, and a female at that, to demonstrate she had the cojones that 90% of the GOP lacks to fight the lawless ‘Rats who are attempting to overthrow our Republic.

Wear your chains lightly. Depart from us.


15 posted on 07/22/2025 4:56:54 AM PDT by TTFlyer (Lenin: that by the infliction of terror, a well-organized minority can conquer a nation.)
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To: Vermont Lt

By their actions Obama and his gang of traitorous Demonicrats gave aid and comfort to the domestic and foreign enemies of the United States. That is one of the constitutional definitionis of treason.


16 posted on 07/22/2025 5:01:17 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (Make Austin Texas Again! )
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To: Vermont Lt
Well said.


20 posted on 07/22/2025 5:44:58 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: Vermont Lt

it’s to treason. And it’s not likely anyone will be charged, tried, or convicted. And Obama would likely have immunity from his position as President.

Expose it. And move on
/

You remind me of the band on the Titanic.

Everything you said is lefty wishful thinking and narrative.

How many post reward doughnuts did the narrative control cubicle pay you for that post ?

Or are you just a volunteer ?

/-)


21 posted on 07/22/2025 5:57:50 AM PDT by cuz1961 ( )
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To: Vermont Lt

Correct - except about no one being charged, tried and convicted. Obama won’t be, but no one else enjoys the protections that he does. There is plenty of evidence out there to convict them, and there NEEDS to be some actual accountability and punishment in order to deter such actions in the future.


28 posted on 07/22/2025 7:36:20 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Vermont Lt
Obama would likely have immunity from his position as President.

Presidential immunity would not apply because falsifying intelligence documents is not an official act.

-PJ

30 posted on 07/22/2025 9:09:40 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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